(Archived) User request: Intitle button in favorites bar or anywhere

[huib 0]

Lets say I have many topics about how to work with "Gmail"

Now I type the word "gmail" in the search field and of course it also returns me topics with just gmail addresses in it.

i have this very often because I forgot to type "intitle:" before the search string, or felt at least too lazy to type it.

I organized my complete EN database very strictly to be able to find on text in the title.

How handy a button would be to narrow my search with the "intitle:" text placed automatically before the search string.

I tried with saved search with an empty "in title:" command but no way ( In the web interface at least that search places the text in the search field. It also adds a space after the : but I can erase that easily)

What also would help is to make a new properties item : text only IN TITLE

Huib

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

Depending upon which client you're using, you may be able to use a text expander app. IE, on Windows there is Autohotkey or Activewords.

[herpi 0]

I agree, but is'nt that too much work for such a simple problem?

Better make an extra field or a tick mark in front of the search field.

But I have the idea that I am the only one with this problem.

Many friends of mine did not even know the intitle command. While it is so important if you have a load of notes.

Huib

[jefito 5,598]

Yes, so Evernote adds the 'tick mark' for intitle:, but now someone else wants the same for tags and so they add that: and then someone else wants the same for todo:, and then resource: and then created:, etc, etc, and so now there's lots of tick marks cluttering up the UI and making things confusing.

In other words, it's not so simple, I think.

If you're looking for generic terms like 'gmail', then you need to learn other ways to narrow your result set down. intitle: is one way, there are others. Learn to use your tools, and they will reward you.

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

Yes, so Evernote adds the 'tick mark' for intitle:, but now someone else wants the same for tags and so they add that: and then someone else wants the same for todo:, and then resource: and then created:, etc, etc, and so now there's lots of tick marks cluttering up the UI and making things confusing.

In other words, it's not so simple, I think.

If you're looking for generic terms like 'gmail', then you need to learn other ways to narrow your result set down. intitle: is one way, there are others. Learn to use your tools, and they will reward you.

Indeed. And another favorite post of mine...

Evernote, it must be said, has a learning curve, and the more useful it is the steeper that curve is. I've been using it since 2006 or so (before it was the current Evernote) and I learn something from this forum every day.

(snip)

It's important to understand that Evernote isn't a toy, it's a serious tool, and that any tool you use will require close and careful study to be most effective. I'm still working on Evernote, but I've tried just about all the others and they don't even come close to its capabilities. .

Additionally, since Evernote is striving for feature parity, adding a single tick box for "intitle" search translates to 14 changes - one for each of the clients.

[herpi 0]

I see EN as a flat database with only two entry fields and a huge index.

Using the title field for better searching is my advise to many people that I explain EN to. So I give them the "intitle: option in lecture nr. 3 of 4.

Initially this is the place to put search words in when filling the DB.

I give daily lectures about EN and one of the complaints of users is the difficulty in finding things.

Especially if a lot of PDF's are involved.

From one of my clients came the option of putting a small tickmark box just before the search field, with:"Search in title field only"

Another one suggested two standard search fields: Title and "Global"

This was the first time I had the idea somebody of my pupils understood the structure of the database.

Im a talking bout real end-users in larger companies.

The fact that EN exists on many platforms does not directly block this: Put a test on e.g. the Mac version an see if it is requested by more....

Huib

P.S. I asked for forced sync before quitting and EN implemented it. My ideas are not that stupid!

http://discussion.ev...__fromsearch__1

[JMichaelTX 4,118]

Seems like the Favorite Bar is a place to put search/filter tools that we use often.

There are 3 Fav buttons that I have little use for: Web Clips, Mobile, Files

But, I'm sure there are others who may need to use these often.

That's the point of the Fav Bar: each user can put on it just the stuff he/she needs.

So, why not have a "Title" button/field?

It is one of the key search/filter fields that could be useful to many.

[jefito 5,598]

I see EN as a flat database with only two entry fields and a huge index.

Unfortunately for you, many others do not see it this way, and Evernote has to code for the many, not the few.

@JMU: A separate 'Title" search field in the Favorites would be fine as far as I am concerned; my objection is to mucking up the existing search field.

[klas 2]

Browsed the forums for an answer to this topic, since I often use the "intitle:" syntax. Just shortening it could be ok, to like "t:". But even better, without cluttering the search field, how about a drop down menu if you click the looking glass in the search field? (With selections for notebook, title etc)

[herpi 0]

Yep. It is a normal flat database (Jefito thinks not) and the first field should contain search items only.

I give a lot of training in Evernote and everybody seems to be greatfull and uses this field very seriously.

garbage in = garbage out .

So a pulldown would be great.

But very little people on this forum seem to understand the principle of databases.

But there is hope.

A long time ago I asked for implementing a system to prevent shutting down without having synchronized. Also in those days people not taking this seriously.

But EN implemented it nicely.

Huib

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

Browsed the forums for an answer to this topic, since I often use the "intitle:" syntax. Just shortening it could be ok, to like "t:". But even better, without cluttering the search field, how about a drop down menu if you click the looking glass in the search field? (With selections for notebook, title etc)

Or...

Depending upon which client you're using, you may be able to use a text expander app. IE, on Windows there is Autohotkey or Activewords.

This works well for me & is something you can use...now.

[jefito 5,598]

Yep. It is a normal flat database (Jefito thinks not)

It's fine to make feature requests. Just please do not misquote me. Here's what you said:

I see EN as a flat database with only two entry fields and a huge index.

Here is what I replied:

Unfortunately for you, many others do not see it this way, and Evernote has to code for the many, not the few.

First, though the note collection presents as fairly flat, it is not entirely so: http://dev.evernote.com/documentation/cloud/chapters/Data_structure.php

Second, each note has more than two entry fields. I count title, created date, updated date, URL, Author, Location, tags, at least. Are we using 'entry field' to mean the same thing?

and the first field should contain search items only.

I don't understand what you mean by this.

garbage in = garbage out .

Often true, but I am not sure what in the discussion that this comment relates to...

So a pulldown would be great.

...or how this statement follows from the previous statement.

But very little people on this forum seem to understand the principle of databases.

Most computers users are not database experts, but you don't need to understand database theory particularly well to know how to operate Evernote effectively. And you're not really asking about anything related to database principles anyways; you're just asking for the UI to provide an easier way to search against one particular field in the database.

Anyways, the Favorites bar does currently have a Attributes button. There are a number of entries like "Contains Images", "Contains Audio", etc. Maybe a new entry like "Title Contains", and letting you type in your title search text might work?

[herpi 0]

Anyways, the Favorites bar does currently have a Attributes button. There are a number of entries like "Contains Images", "Contains Audio", etc. Maybe a new entry like "Title Contains", and letting you type in your title search text might work?

Maybe. But except elements like date, size etc. I still see only 2 fields. Header and bottom field as many call the latter. So I would be humbly greatful if I could make an extra searchbox in the top part of the screen, called header or even "intitle"

I am talking about the Mac version by the way. In the Windows version it may be more complicated because the search field is somewhere in between. I teach my clients to concentrate from the beginning on this header field by typing the words to search for.

Many have problems with this "intitle+:" text in front of the search strings.

Huib

[herpi 0]

Most computers users are not database experts, but you don't need to understand database theory particularly well to know how to operate Evernote effectively. And you're not really asking about anything related to database principles anyways; you're just asking for the UI to provide an easier way to search against one particular field in the database.

You are right. I was wrong. Sorry.

But your "Unfortunately for you, many others do not see it this way, and Evernote has to code for the many, not the few." confused me or even irritated me somewhat.

Huib

[jefito 5,598]

One thing that your clients should know (maybe you tell them this already) is that normal search will find matches in note titles as well as in note content (also tags). Unless I really need to narrow my search down to titles (and I don't have any elaborated titling system as some do), I just use regular search.

[herpi 0]

One thing that your clients should know (maybe you tell them this already) is that normal search will find matches in note titles as well as in note content (also tags). Unless I really need to narrow my search down to titles (and I don't have any elaborated titling system as some do), I just use regular search.

Right

Huib

[herpi 0]

Solved for me.

in 5.0 you can easily make a save search for intitle only.

then drag the saved search to the shortcuts part.

Thanks!

huib