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I am having problems when filtering by tag. It effects both Windows desktop version and the web version. There is some further discussion in the thread linked at the bottom. This screenshot demonstrates the problem although sometimes I simply have fewer than the stated number of notes actually displayed. Newly tagged notes seem to be more reliably displayed than older notes.

image.thumb.png.2872c7b2f70a4a5498dd8d455a7da57f.png

There are two workarounds that I have found:

1. Don't use filter at all but use the advanced search syntax

tag:+video

2. Alternatively once you have got the incorrect number of notes add something (e.g. a period) to the search box and press enter. I have mapped the F8 key to do this using Autohotkey and the script is below if anybody is interested

F8::
{
	SetKeyDelay 50
	SendEvent "!^f"
	Sleep 50
	SendEvent ".{Enter}"
}

 

 

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I'm strictly using just the web version now and am seeing this and as a tags organizer/user it makes Evernote totally mostly useless to me.

One example: I click on a tag and it shows me 1 note in the list for that tag, even though it tells me there are 60 notes with that tag. And then another kicker is that even the one note that it shows me doesn't show that tag at the bottom of the note editor.

 

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I have the same issue on windows and web client (10.100.1). The number of notes with the assigned tag is correct. But when I filter by this tag (or simply click on this tag in the tag-section) I get zero resulting notes or the windows / web client shows random other notes with other tags. That way, the tag feature is rendered useless on desktop and web. Major issue!

PS: Android 10.99.1 tag feature is working.

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3 minutes ago, Alxa said:

That way, the tag feature is rendered useless on desktop and web. Major issue!

I'm sure the issue will be fixed, but we obviously don't know the timescale for this. Do the workarounds I described work for you? 

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Yes the workaround for the filtering via tag:XXX works. Thanks.

Watch out: I just noticed that that the windows client even resets / deletes newly assigned tags from my notes in some cases. I just set some tags on my vacation notes and after some moments the tags apparently had been removed from the notes. On Android the tags are still shown, on web and desktop not. Something is really wrong with RENT on web/desktop. 🫤

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34 minutes ago, laurence.glazier said:

Thanks for that idea. Who would have thought it? Simply searching on a period/full stop symbol "." seems to bring back the missing notes.

Many thanks, @Mike P 

Sometimes the search character simply disappears when you press enter so you could probably search for anything. I noticed this disappearing trick when adding a tag:xxx so I tried different characters and finally chose a period as most notes contain a full stop somewhere (for cases where the search string doesn't disapper).

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The trick seems to work even for notes that do not contain a full stop. However in those that do, the full stop is duly highlighted. It also works with other characters like " ' ". But with normal letters like "e" there is a long pause and then it fails. But using the full stop, etc, my filtered notes, still missing when the tag is selected (several hours after the tags were set), reappear instantly when a "special" character is added to the search. So perhaps the special characters are omitted in the search, but trigger the necessary filter search.

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10.100 seems to have been pulled and the current version on the website is 10.99.3. I have therefore uninstalled 10.100 using Revo uninstaller and reinstalled 10.99.3. All tags filters are now working again. Ironic that the "centenary" edition, rather than being somthing special, was a disaster!

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Weird. Literally just minutes ago I downloaded from Evernote.com and got version 10.100.3. Unfortunately it doesn't fix the issue being discussed here. 

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Same here. 10.100.3 did not fix the tag issue with showing the correct number of tags. I've had significant problems with the last three versions.  In another stream it was mentioned that BS was aware of the tags issue and working on it.  

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This morning I noticed a lag even using the web app for display of tagged notes. Until now I had almost trusted the web app to return filtered lists faithfully, but there is a lag of about 30 minutes for me today. So I still need to visually check from the Notes list for recently added filters, and add them to shortcuts if I intend to refer to them easily within the following hour.

However at least using the trick of appending a full stop to the search makes the mobile device display the same filtered notes as the web app, rather than be blank for today's tagged notes. This is progress.

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Yes, I am experiencing exactly the same thing on the Mac. (10.100.3) Does not work at all. Overall, Evernote has significantly slowed down over the past couple of weeks. It is really cumbersome.

 

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Same problem.  Looking at the forum a few messages back, it has been happening to some people since early July.  It's finally gotten me.  I don't even see mine in the web client?  Have there been any updates on this other than being worked on? 

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Haven't the same problem as well. Will submit a ticket. It happened after the latest update. Frustrating that each update leads to new bugs. It's getting worse and not better. 

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@Mike P

Thank you, sir!!   Both of your solutions (+tag.. and the period in search window) work perfectly.  Now that is what I call a bug, major time.  I stay up to date with my version of EN so I don't really know when this bug appeared.  But it doesn't make me feel particularly good when EN's QA didn't catch this before going out the door to customers. 

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Same issue when trying to sort groups of notes with same tag by TITLE= none found

Sort by date created = all found.

When will we EVER get a STABLE version of EN that just works? 

I can understand new features " breaking" but releasing versions that break basic functions that have worked for years is unacceptable.

 

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I have the same Problem with 10.100.3 on Win10 and in the web. The workaround works - but slows down the workflow very much. I hope they fix it soon and don't bring two new errors for fixing one ....

I have organized my more than 30000 notes with more than 1000 tags and maybe 30 of them as favorites for daily use. But clicking on a favorite shows  that there are e.g. 400 notes with this tag - but displays only a few of them ...

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37 minutes ago, andy777 said:

The workaround works - but slows down the workflow very much.

There are two workarounds listed, which one are you using? Searching for a period is quite quick and can be done using only the keyboard or using the AHK script I described.

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4 hours ago, Mike P said:

AHK script I described.

Thanks for this hint. I didn't recognize this. But where can i assign a new "hotkey" ? I found only where to change the already exisiting ones.

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36 minutes ago, andy777 said:

Thanks for this hint. I didn't recognize this. But where can i assign a new "hotkey" ? I found only where to change the already exisiting ones.

Yo can only do it with the Windows app AutoHotKey or other macro type app

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On 8/6/2024 at 10:51 AM, Mike P said:

I am having problems when filtering by tag. It effects both Windows desktop version and the web version. There is some further discussion in the thread linked at the bottom. This screenshot demonstrates the problem although sometimes I simply have fewer than the stated number of notes actually displayed. Newly tagged notes seem to be more reliably displayed than older notes.

image.thumb.png.2872c7b2f70a4a5498dd8d455a7da57f.png

There are two workarounds that I have found:

1. Don't use filter at all but use the advanced search syntax

tag:+video

2. Alternatively once you have got the incorrect number of notes add something (e.g. a period) to the search box and press enter. I have mapped the F8 key to do this using Autohotkey and the script is below if anybody is interested

F8::
{
	SetKeyDelay 50
	SendEvent "!^f"
	Sleep 50
	SendEvent ".{Enter}"
}

 

 

I'm inexperienced with the "advanced search syntax," but I've found that the tag search (tag:[tagname]) only works with tags that have no spaces; e.g. "tag:#Status" works, but "tag:# Status" does not.  Is there way to use it with tags that contain spaces?

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Weird related/sidenote regarding this tag filtering anomaly - and possibly other issues (e.g. internal links not working) that seem only to affect older, not recently edited notes.

The iOS app seems to work fine, and if you modify a note [using the iOS app] it miraculously appears with tag filtering in the Windows and Web apps.  There seems to be something about old note formats that the new version(s) don't like.  Simply editing a note seems to reformat it. 

I hope Evernote either fixes this backward compatibility issue, or provides a way to mass convert to the new format - so that ALL notes are accessible whether or not they've been recently edited.

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14 hours ago, hartman_md said:

Is there way to use it with tags that contain spaces?

Yes. Simply enclose the tag name in quotation marks

tag:"my multi-word tag"

Don't forget the other workaround listed. When you get your incomplete list of notes simply add a period (full-stop) to the search field and press enter.

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Seems to be fixed in 10.101.3

10.101.3-win-ddl-public (20240812160720)
Editor: v178.23.0
Service: v2.5.4
© 2019 - 2024 Evernote Corporation. All rights reserved

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I just updated to 10.101.5 and it doesn't work. Now also the number of tags in the "filtered list" is wrong - but it seems to correspond to the visible notes.

But the tag feature - which was a major advantage of Evernote - is useless in this state.

I hope they get it fixed.....

 

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I have version 10.101.6

Notes with tags aren't showing up in Windows app. The are there in web app, and on IOS app.

This is a major bug, needs to be fixed!!

 

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On 8/13/2024 at 1:54 AM, Mike P said:

Seems to be fixed in 10.101.3

10.101.3-win-ddl-public (20240812160720)
Editor: v178.23.0
Service: v2.5.4
© 2019 - 2024 Evernote Corporation. All rights reserved

Alas not..

Using: 10.101.6-win-ddl-public (20240814195043)
Editor: v178.23.0
Service: v2.5.7
© 2019 - 2024 Evernote Corporation. All rights reserved

 

NOT FIXED...

 

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On 8/11/2024 at 1:15 AM, Mike P said:

Yes. Simply enclose the tag name in quotation marks

tag:"my multi-word tag"

Don't forget the other workaround listed. When you get your incomplete list of notes simply add a period (full-stop) to the search field and press enter.

 

Weirdly, this works for me, but only with 2 searches.

Select tag, wrong or no notes returned.

Add "." to search - no change

Search a second time with "." - get correct results.

I have reported this to EN tech support page:

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

and ask that everyone to do likewise, For me this is a major bug, especially since tags are recommended as a best practice for using and organizing EN.

Not sure EN ever checks this space, but (I hope) the bug reports are better followed.

Bleccchhh - BIG PROBLEM ....

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, markeh said:

and ask that everyone to do likewise, For me this is a major bug, especially since tags are recommended as a best practice for using and organizing EN.

I am definitely not having this problem anymore. Went away with 101.3 and is still fine with 101.6

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So just upgraded today (again)

10.101.7-win-ddl-public (20240816092121)
Editor: v178.23.0
Service: v2.5.8
© 2019 - 2024 Evernote Corporation. All rights reserved

Interesting changes. Most tags with a small number of notes seem fixed. Tags with a larger number of notes (ie -15 +) are still missing a few notes.

The web version seems to get it right, so the correct data seems to be in EN cloud.

Progress, of a sort. I need to spend more time checking out to see if I can find more of a pattern.

I note that the last 2 updates have this message in release notes:

Sorry, we weren't able to get the release notes for Evernote 10.101.7 at this time.

Maybe EN central needs to stop adding new features, pay some technical debt, and clean up. Just my uninformed opinion.

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, markeh said:

The web version seems to get it right, so the correct data seems to be in EN cloud.

If the web version is correct and the Windows client is wrong you may just need to refresh your local data base. Simply signout and choose "Remove my EN data from this device". Then sign back in again

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Is anyone seeing a blank tag kingdom? On Evernote for Mac I see a blank tag kingdom since updating to 10.100 or 10.101. I've been patient, but even today's minor update to 10.101.7 hasn't fixed it. This is what I currently see on Mac (web works fine):

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3 hours ago, Mike P said:

If the web version is correct and the Windows client is wrong you may just need to refresh your local data base. Simply signout and choose "Remove my EN data from this device". Then sign back in again

I thought about doing that. Both the web and IOS version seem right, just the Windows app is messed up.

But it seemed like a very high risk plan.

 

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8 hours ago, Mike P said:

If the web version is correct and the Windows client is wrong you may just need to refresh your local data base. Simply signout and choose "Remove my EN data from this device". Then sign back in again

Well, I got brave and tried this. So far tag and note counts now seem to line up. Nothing appears to be missing. So far, so good.

In interesting effect. Before the sign out-delete and the re-sign in, the Evernote storage directory was 5.67 GB, 151918 files.

After - 1.12 GB, 2901 files.

Either I lost a lot of stuff I haven't missed yet, or a lot of space was wasted. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

If the sign-out and re-sign in cleaned out that much stuff I didn't need, I should do this more often.

... OK - a closer look it seems the EN is slowly downloading everything to local storage (which is what I want) Maybe EN is smarter than I give it credit....😊

Can't wait to see where it ends up.

thx,

 

 

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4 hours ago, markeh said:

... OK - a closer look it seems the EN is slowly downloading everything to local storage (which is what I want) Maybe EN is smarter than I give it credit....😊

It continues to download stuff in the background for some time. However I have never found that this really causes me a problem provided I am online. It will still find the stuff I want but might take a little longer to actually open the note. Think of it as the web app transitioning to the desktop app.

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Well, it seems that "sign-out then sign-in" rebuilds the database and tags. So far seems to work.

EN continues to download in small increments.

 

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It will only rebuild the database if the option to keep data on the local drive is disabled, and the database dumped on logout.

To speed up the download, leave the app run whenever you use the computer. Opposite to the mobile client it will download even while running minimized in the background.

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Hello, @By Mike P
It seems like you're experiencing issues with tag filtering in versions 10.100.1 and RENT. Here are some potential solutions:
  1. Check tag formatting: Ensure that your tags are correctly formatted and follow the required syntax.
  2. Verify tag assignment: Confirm that the tags are properly assigned to the relevant items or objects.
  3. Filter settings: Review your filter settings to ensure they're correctly configured.
  4. Version compatibility: Check if the issue is specific to versions 10.100.1 and RENT or if it's a more widespread problem.
  5. Consult documentation: Refer to the official documentation or user guides for tag filtering in your specific software or system.
  6. Seek support: Reach out to the software's support team or community forums for further assistance.
If you provide more details about the issue, I can try to offer more tailored advice!
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I did this: "rebuild the database if the option to keep data on the local drive is disabled, and the database dumped on logout."

It needed some days to synchronize and download my complete database again (5GB, >30.000 Notes) And it seemed to be okay - but only for the already existing notes.

After creating new notes and tagging them - it's the same game like before.

Clicking on the tag will NOT show the new note which has the tag.

The displayed number ob notes with the tag ist not the same like in the filtered note-list (filtered with the tag). And it's not only a special tag but a general issue.

This morning i updated to 10.102.7 and it's the same.

Web view works correct.

 

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11 hours ago, andy777 said:

It needed some days to synchronize and download my complete database again (5GB, >30.000 Notes) And it seemed to be okay - but only for the already existing notes

Yup - I see the same thing. Web is OK. Windows app - doesn't show new note under an existing tag. IOS app - also doesn't show. So IMO a big problem .

EN seems to like adding more features, but never makes sure basic functionality, critical to the product being useful, are working. SMART-FILING has been non-functional for quite a while. Search of text in IOS apps doesn't work. And this.

As useful as Evernote could be, that's only if the product actually works.

As the problems increase with no indication that EN will fix them, I begin to see why people are searching for an alternative.

 

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EN seems to like adding more features, but never makes sure basic functionality, critical to the product being useful, are working. SMART-FILING has been non-functional for quite a while. Search of text in IOS apps doesn't work. And this.

 

I think they are addressing the Search of Text.. as per bug tracker.. Hopefully more bugs are address as they finish with RENT behind the scene upgrades.

 

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s308/client/snv?isnewsnv=true&noteGuid=3589c5e3-d88a-c1db-9180-7253cb0f945d&noteKey=UMycoXtcGAJY8uY3wvjppz-Rwo9imkUAJNZR0IEiS-GEv_L05i7h418ABg&sn=https://www.evernote.com/shard/s308/sh/3589c5e3-d88a-c1db-9180-7253cb0f945d/UMycoXtcGAJY8uY3wvjppz-Rwo9imkUAJNZR0IEiS-GEv_L05i7h418ABg&title=Evernote+bugfix+tracker&displayMode=website

 

 

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