Penultimate going away??? What's the alternative??

[BubbaPat 0]

I like Evernote but I LOVE Penultimate.  I use it nearly every day.  I can sketch out ideas and have them organized.

Now I see that it's going away and this does not make me happy.  Is it going to be incorporated into Evernote??

Does anyone have a suggesting on a similar app??

Thanks, Patrick

[PinkElephant 8,835]

Penultimate is actually another piece of outdated, unsupported code in the old ENs kingdom.

EN bought it „back then“ as part of a diversification into pen writing, make a bad integration into the EN app, and left it without giving it much attention. If you ever used a modern handwriting oriented app you won’t look back. Unless you own a „Jot Script“ stylus (WTF is that ???).

Personally I use GoodNotes.

[laurence.glazier 147]

If you use iPad, go for Apple Notes. Share to Evernote.

[PinkElephant 8,835]

At least when I tried, it only shared a link.

[laurence.glazier 147]

For me it creates a note containing an image of my handwriting, and it is searchable. The searching can give false positives!

But a big advantage is that while in Apple Notes, you can highlight some of the handwriting and choose Copy to Text.

[PinkElephant 8,835]

As told I just get a shareable link.

Further the handwriting in AN is embedded into a text based note, similar to EN.

Goodnotes has a canvas that mimics a real page, and is graphical from scratch. Text is overlayed as a text box. For handwriting or sketching it is the better approach.

[s2sailor 2,456]

On 5/6/2024 at 2:25 PM, BubbaPat said:

Does anyone have a suggesting on a similar app?

If investigating other apps, I would suggest checking out Nebo as well.

[bmcl26 578]

I have a Wacom Tablet & Stylus, which I can use for handwritten Notes, but I usually prefer to use Rocketbook for the few Handwritten notes I save.

[laurence.glazier 147]

16 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

As told I just get a shareable link.

Further the handwriting in AN is embedded into a text based note, similar to EN.

Curious, I have been doing this for a year, and after the share from Apple Notes a new Evernote Note is in the Inbox with the handwritten note.

Share to Evernote also works like that for me with text Apple Notes.

I initially used Penultimate, but it sometimes goes wrong ...
 

[KnRomig 10]

The original Penultimate was my favorite handwriting app - bar none.  Just a wonderful tool.  Then EN wrecked it to such an extreme that it was mindboggling. 

As an example, in the original version one could zoom - IN PLACE - and have the app track across the page and back, as you wrote.  Much like Zoom boxes on many writing apps now.  But, in place function was so clean.  Tap - Zoom - write - tap tap - zoom out.  You didn't have to move your pen all over.  Same with the inking colors and tips, etc.  All was right at the pen tip.  Then EN for some reason just blew the entire UI up.

Try NoteShelf 3 - it syncs right to EN.  No export is needed.  NoteShelf is a solid app. There are others, GoodNotes, Notabilty, NotesPlus. I don't think any of those sync directly with EN, though.  Not a fan of Apple Notes - pretty clunky for an Apple product.  For example, you can't zoom in on Apple Notes - like, huh??  Basic stuff.  Also, the inking stays separate from any keyed text. Again, huh?

 

[PinkElephant 8,835]

Penultimate was an app acquired by the old EN corporation, eons ago. As it was their habit, they never invested any love into it. The code base probably was still etched in stones. The only "feature" it got was to save pages into EN notes - who calls this syncing has low expectations, since it is a plain picture.

Over the years it developed itself into another piece of technical debt. Good it was removed.

EN is not made for handwriting. The HTML data format used is foreign to handwriting. So get another app, and be happy.

[carlolam 0]

Has anyone found an alternative to penultimate yet ? I tried noteshelf 3 however I have ran into Evernote sync rate limit reach and notes not syncing properly.

[PinkElephant 8,835]

It’s Noteshelf or any other, independent handwriting app that won’t try to sync into EN.

Personally I use GoodNotes.

[macfixer 711]

55 minutes ago, carlolam said:

Has anyone found an alternative to penultimate yet ? I tried noteshelf 3 however I have ran into Evernote sync rate limit reach and notes not syncing properly.

I'm using Notability these days. It feels good, and I can export my notes as PDFs or JPEGs (I use JPEG) and import them into Evernote. Not quite as nice as first-party support, but RELIABLE.

[Grant Small 0]

On 5/8/2024 at 12:55 AM, PinkElephant said:

As told I just get a shareable link.

Further the handwriting in AN is embedded into a text based note, similar to EN.

Goodnotes has a canvas that mimics a real page, and is graphical from scratch. Text is overlayed as a text box. For handwriting or sketching it is the better approach.

I use GoodNotes6, but the issue is that it is not searchable in Evernote.  At least with Penultimate the handwritten notes were searchable in Evernote.  I have saved GN as pdfs but it is still not finding my text. 

[PinkElephant 8,835]

Sure it’s searchable - after you exported a notebook (or similar) as a pdf to EN.The export will include the GN search index for these pages.

[Grant Small 0]

3 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

Sure it’s searchable - after you exported a notebook (or similar) as a pdf to EN.The export will include the GN search index for these pages.

Clearly I am doing something wrong because Evernote is not managing to find any of my exported notes (with handwriting recognition options selected) 

[PinkElephant 8,835]

You probably need to give it some time to integrate into the search index. Even if it is indexed already, the hidden index of the GN files need to be found, and listed in the own EN search index. This is done on the server, after the new content is synced there.

[Jumelile 0]

Help! How can I “redeem” my notes from Penultimate? The app no longer exists and Evernote does not allow me to acess my notes without signing up for some paid plan!

[PinkElephant 8,835]

Your notes are in your EN account, if you ever had an account and synced the handwriting with it.

If not, and if you didn't save the content, it was lost together with the app.

If yes, just go to your account and make a desktop client the only used device. From there you can export by notebooks.

When you use the HTML export option, all attached handwritings will be in a subfolder of the HTML export folder.