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5 hours ago, ehrt74 said:

And I've applied at least five times to get on the beta program 😭 

If anybody from Evernote is reading this, can you mention this to whoever decides Linux beta testing stuff? 😀

Sympathies - took me an age to qualify too.  Don't know how they make decisions - maybe try Support?

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38 minutes ago, agsteele said:

I'm not sure I'd bother with the Linux beta. As I understand, it is not progressing much. I continue with the web browser on Linux.

I agree that with the browser and the app being so closely matched on features it's difficult to call,  but for me the app has a slight edge.  Hopefully they'll get around to the production version soon...

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3 minutes ago, gazumped said:

I agree that with the browser and the app being so closely matched on features it's difficult to call,  but for me the app has a slight edge.  Hopefully they'll get around to the production version soon...

What is the current Linux Beta version?

my current web version info:

version 10.28.3 282

Éditeur : v 138.1.17456

Service : v 1.45.0

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I have installed the .deb file for Linux in Linux Mint, Ubuntu and Pop! and I always get the same result : I enter my name and password then obtain a never-ending green cicle around the elephant head, never entering in the app.

 

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It takes a while to load,  but shouldn't be more than a minute or two...  Do you have a good Internet connection?  Any proxies, firewalls or AV to get in the way?  Report to Support if you're unable to get access.

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The Linux beta download page included a link to a private beta forum to give feedback... but the forum doesn't seem to exist 😞 

So I'm not sure if I should even bother trying the beta...

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20 hours ago, MZB said:

The Linux beta download page included a link to a private beta forum to give feedback... but the forum doesn't seem to exist 😞 

So I'm not sure if I should even bother trying the beta...

Hi.  It's always helpful to know what page you're talking about since recent updates have been announced in the forums (yup - that one that doesn't exist) and don't have any links that I can see.  If you're an official beta-tester you'll have access here - https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/754-linux-private-beta/  if not you may need to join the Early Access Program which has a page here - https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/536-early-access-program/.

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Someone sent me a link to a cracked download for Evernote Linux 10.7,  but I'm now on 10.31 and quite enjoying a little more speed.  I'd stick to the web version if you can't get to Linux Beta.

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Sorry, none of us know the answer. You could ask Evernote support but I doubt you'll get an answer. Given that the apps are basically a web browser wrapped up to run on its own the best option remains using the Evernote web version.

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On 4/23/2022 at 1:09 AM, marcelomena_genesoft said:

I applied a thousand times to the beta program and they still don't accept me

It's still a private beta,  and perhaps they have enough testers already.  Your time will come...

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Well, I like Evernote, I'm paying for it, and used it for years. The lack of Linux support and it being stuck in "Beta" for years is truly disheartening. I'm at a breaking point right now, and am about to jump ship to Joplin. I've waited for a very long time.

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Such a rush to get the software even the company don't think is quite ready for release.  The web version on the other hand is almost as good and freely available...

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18 hours ago, gazumped said:

Such a rush to get the software even the company don't think is quite ready for release.  The web version on the other hand is almost as good and freely available...

When you say "almost as good," I just want to double check - the desktop client is the only way to work offline and edit attachments without downloading/uploading them, right? These features don't exist in the web client last I tried.

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I thought the whole point of having a common app across all operating systems was to make roll out of updates much easier. I'm fortunate enough to be on the Linux beta and it is as good as the Windows desktop version - except much faster (on less capable hardware but that's probably a Linux thing!). I understand that Linux might be seen as a fairly niche desktop OS but if the incremental effort of releasing a public Linux version is that great then there seems to be little point in having a common app.

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I'd imagine that there's a significant difference between updates and development.  Evernote always seems to concentrate on things that will benefit the most users,  and while they want to bring the Linux app up to the same spec as the mainstream software,  they'll be concentrating most resources there. 

Don't know how different it is using Electron for another OS - and maybe that's also part of the problem.  Linux (of which I'm also a user and beta-tester) seems to have a confusing number of flavours - the team will want to be very careful that nothing catastrophic can happen to your individual data (or indeed the sync system overall) because they didn't include some fringe distro in their coding.

'Do no harm' applies just as much to devs as it does to doctors...

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Maybe the problem is the same that bugs the Android client: Too many different makers of Linux desktop "flavors", many chances to derail an app, difficult QA. I don't think there is a single Linux distribution for desktop that could serve as a standard, covering all others. Probably Ubuntu or Debian are as close as it gets, but still there are many more.

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Hello everyone.

Yesterday i have received message with link to linux app, but link lead me to Early Access form that i'm filled out already. 

On 2/28/2022 at 7:52 PM, gazumped said:

Hi.  It's always helpful to know what page you're talking about since recent updates have been announced in the forums (yup - that one that doesn't exist) and don't have any links that I can see.  If you're an official beta-tester you'll have access here - https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/754-linux-private-beta/  if not you may need to join the Early Access Program which has a page here - https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/536-early-access-program/.

This link not work for me. Is this mean that i don't deserve? Or else? 😃

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On 5/29/2022 at 3:26 AM, PinkElephant said:

Maybe the problem is the same that bugs the Android client: Too many different makers of Linux desktop "flavors", many chances to derail an app, difficult QA. I don't think there is a single Linux distribution for desktop that could serve as a standard, covering all others. Probably Ubuntu or Debian are as close as it gets, but still there are many more.

Hmm, according the electron website, this diversity shouldn't be a problem at all "...If you can build a website, you can build a desktop app. Electron is a framework for creating native applications with web technologies like JavaScript, HTML, and CSS. It takes care of the hard parts so you can focus on the core of your application..." 🤣

https://www.electronjs.org/

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Last time I used it the beta was quite a few versions behind the main desktop versions so presumably doesn't have real time editing. As a casual Linux user I'm happy to use the web version if I'm on Linux but it's disappointing, but I guess undderstandable, that development seems to be a low priority.

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1 minute ago, Mike P said:

Last time I used it the beta is quite a few versions behind the main desktop versions so presumably doesn't have real time editing. As a casual Linux user I'm happy to use the web version if I'm on Linux but it's disappointing, but I guess undderstandable, that development seems to be a low priority.

It's on 10.53.2 at the moment. No updates for a couple of months. As a full-time Linux user I'm not happy to have to settle for the web version. 

It may be understandable that it's low priority. What is harder to understand or forgive is the total lack of engagement from Evernote/Bending Spoons in the Linux Beta forum. Just on grounds of simple courtesy, even if it's to say "we don't see an official Linux client in our roadmap" or "please be patient, we don't have the resources to do everything at the moment".

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1 hour ago, mjotad said:

What is harder to understand or forgive is the total lack of engagement from Evernote/Bending Spoons in the Linux Beta forum

Don't know how many Linux Beta users there are,  but I'd guess we're less than one-tenth of one percent of Evernote users generally.  Plus it's a Beta - not a production item maintained professionally,  but a test to see if some things actually work.  They'll get around to us soon enough...  meantime the web version is pretty much the whole deal now.

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10 hours ago, gazumped said:

Don't know how many Linux Beta users there are,  but I'd guess we're less than one-tenth of one percent of Evernote users generally.  Plus it's a Beta - not a production item maintained professionally,  but a test to see if some things actually work.  They'll get around to us soon enough...  meantime the web version is pretty much the whole deal now.

Yes. I'm sure we're a very small proportion of Evernote users. Maybe the proportion would be larger if we actually had an official client. And your description sounds to me more like an alpha release. A beta would surely be pre-production.

In any event, I'm sure that at the moment the priorities for Bending Spoons are elsewhere. But it would take them what, all of half an hour to make a post in the forums saying "We're really busy with other stuff at the moment, please be patient and we'll get around to you".  No updates, no engagement, no roadmap. Not a great way to treat customers.

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Linux as a desktop OS is a very small niche of the total market for desktops. Windows, Macs, Chromebooks (you can dispute whether this is a desktop OS altogether). Linux on desktops is in the low 1-digits percentage.

EN traditionally does not communicate on roadmaps or timelines.

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9 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

Linux as a desktop OS is a very small niche of the total market for desktops. Windows, Macs, Chromebooks (you can dispute whether this is a desktop OS altogether). Linux on desktops is in the low 1-digits percentage.

EN traditionally does not communicate on roadmaps or timelines.

This argument gets trotted out frequently, although it's based on statistics with a fairly questionable methodology behind them.

However, there are quite a number of applications competing in the same space, developed by much smaller and less well funded teams, who find it worthwhile and possible to include Linux within their definition of "multi-platform". Upnote, Notesnook, Obsidian, and quite a few others. So there is a market there to be served, and with the use of a common platform since V10, many fewer reasons not to serve it.

And whatever EN traditionally does or doesn't do,  their attitude towards customers who are committed enough to the product to particpate in a beta programme, leaving them hanging with zero information or feedback is just poor business practice and lacking in common courtesy.

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No excuse meant: They just sacked 50% of staff, among it it seems the whole (?) business development team.

The current staff probably has to follow strict priorities.

Probably 2 things meet: The Linux client never was the hottest subject on the plate, and the priorities are to get new sync / RTE launched and stabilized. So draw your own conclusions.

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27 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

No excuse meant: They just sacked 50% of staff, among it it seems the whole (?) business development team.

The current staff probably has to follow strict priorities.

Probably 2 things meet: The Linux client never was the hottest subject on the plate, and the priorities are to get new sync / RTE launched and stabilized. So draw your own conclusions.

Yep, that's probably all correct. I drew my conclusions a couple of months back and exported all my notes to Obsidian. Haven't been putting anything new into Evernote since then, because I don't want to waste time and effort if the Linux client is going to be abandoned. It's a real shame though, because the Linux beta has been excellent and reliable for at least a year and a half now.

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Bending Spoons have a huge existing customer  base (given that they generated the spare funds to buy Evernote),  and they now have those additional users to add to the mix.  Somewhere in the management structure they'll be deciding where to spend their money most cost-effectively. 

It might go into Linux,  or it might not - but they're not going to pre-announce developments until they're ready, and they're not going to give away marketing ammunition to the competition by saying 'no'.  Standard corporate practice.  You'll find out about the Linux project if and when it launches - which might only have been delayed because of editing or syncing changes to the mainstream app. 

I'm sure no insult or disrespect is intended,  and they are kinda busy right now...

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Hi.  Are you part of the official private Linux Beta test?  There's a separate forum thread for that.  Linux seems to have been back-burnered in the recent changes - you may wish to check with Support direct for what is available.  Meantime the web version is probably as up to date as you can get.

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11 minutes ago, Dariusz K. said:

Hi, I'm not a part of any the beta program. I had no idea I have to if I want to use Evernote app for Linux.

There's no public release for Linux yet - you'll only be able to access your current version or the web. 

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Hey guys!

I totally do not understand why the Linux version of Evernote is not released...

I'm using GNU/Linux as the primary OS since 2006-2007 (at first few years - Arch Linux, then - Kubuntu) and currently have ThinkPad Carbon X1 Gen. 8 Core i7 with the Kubuntu 23.10 release.

Also I am Linux Foundation Certified Sysadmin and Certified Kubernetes Administrator, GNU/Linux is my main personal OS (at the job I have MacBook Pro M1) and I really like Evernote. I'm using Evernote since September 5th, 2019 with Professional account currently.

Alpha, beta, release candidate, does not matter, maybe somebody could give me and other interested people the access to GNU/Linux native Evernote version? Web version is not working very well btw, some web syncing issues, need to refresh page from time to time, so native is definitely needed.

You know, Evernote is not the only one personal&team notes solution and I could easily switch to any other, but I love Evernote.

Best Regards,
Dmitrii,
Miro.

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47 minutes ago, Dmitrii Vinokurov said:

„I'm using GNU/Linux as the primary OS since …“

The problem is there are just a few who could say this, and the number is not growing. Linux as a personal computer OS is a niche, and this niche is then fractioned between numerous „flavors“.

EN has not communicated why they decided to stop the beta and abandon the project, but it probably was for economical reasons.

The forum is user2user. To contact EN officially you can issue a support ticket. I however doubt you get a real explanation by a decision maker.

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@Dmitrii Vinokurov In case you haven't already seen this thread, it was officially announced that they are not focused on the Linux client at all anymore: 

In addition to what PinkElephant wrote, general Linux users prefer free and open source and aren't going to fork out $129 for an app. So you've got 3% of desktop operating system users using Linux, then on top of that probably 1% (of that 3%) who would be willing to pay money for a note taking app, then on top of that (0.001% of that 1% of that 3%) that would be willing to pay for Evernote. Just not worth it for the bottom line. Just my guess.

Besides, Evernote doesn't even have a syntax highlighting block for code snippets (but hopefully that is coming soon).

 

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