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I won't rehash the whole drama of v10 and who hates or loves it in this post.  The issue for many of us is very simple ie: we will not use v10 in its current form but we find Legacy to be perfectly usable.  The only problem is how to prepare for the day that legacy simply stops functioning?  I have read many posts about this not happening and about how the EN API's will live on forever etc etc.  For the sake of argument I would like to assume that this is not true and that there is a possibility of waking up one morning and finding that EN servers no longer sync the Legacy version.  I have also read about the numerous EN alternatives and would gladly migrate to one of them if absolutely forced to.  However, the main question that I have is what needs to be done to prepare for such a migration?  Would simply saving the enex files to a cloud drive be enough?  How about also saving the "add to evernote" folders which contains all of the pdfs, docs, images, spreadsheets that make their way into EN?  These folders contain the actual physical files that were copied into EN but they are spread out at home and work computers depending on where I was when I "saved to Evernote".  For now, I will continue to use Legacy in the hope that it will continue to function or that v10 will miraculously become usable in the future, but I definitely want to have an exit strategy if all else fails.  Like many on this forum, EN is the organizational platform that runs my personal and business lives and being locked out of my data would be inconceivable.

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35 minutes ago, idoc said:

Would simply saving the enex files to a cloud drive be enough?

My backups include a weekly full export in both html and enex format, saved to a cloud folder

>>EN servers no longer sync the Legacy version

The app itself will continue to function even after Evernote turns off the sync support   
fwiw Some alternative apps import directly from the Evernote server or app

>>Howabout also saving the "add to evernote" folders which contains all of the pdfs, docs, images, spreadsheets that make their way into EN?  These folders contain the actual physical files that were copied into EN

For myself, these folders are empty   
I delete the files after importing to Evernote

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If you're running a business off of Evernote I can see why you'd be nervous,  but as I've said several times already - I'm going to run the Legacy version until v10 shows up as workable (I'm an optimist - so sue me...) or until Evernote announce an end of life for the sync process. Knowing that they have 200M users,  no reputable company could do that overnight - which I appreciate given recent events is not a guarantee,  but still - I'd expect at least a 6 month warning along the lines of an end of year deadline.

That's when I'll start working out what to do with my content.  I suspect what's on Evernote will stay on Evernote - I have 50K notes stretching back longer than 12 years (I digitised some paper files) and managing the conversion of so much history into another database would be... frustrating.  My notes will be safe in a Basic account and I'll have a local daily full backup (still using Backupery) if necessary. I can copy / export any working files I need into a new app - if and when I need them.

Of course by that stage I might have found that Evernote is working at least reasonably well for me and all I'll need to outsource will be unsupported former services.

@Stacey emailed recently that Ian Small agreed in one of his interviews this year that Evernote will continue Legacy for as long as necessary while 'power user' features are built back into the main application.  All I can do is take life as it comes - so business as usual then - and deal with crises as best I can when - and if - they occur.  

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At least your data doesn't go away if legacy desktop disappears.  One can slog through for some period with a functionally weaker, slower app.  Though not sure what my "for some period" would be if performance doesn't improve.  IAC your data will still be there though not baked in the best of wrappers.

 If there is anything at all urgent in the process it might be any local notes that you have.  Deciding what to do with those and perhaps creating a parallel system for some period may make sense.  There are a few providers with local note capability but they may be missing other key to you features.  As I've posted in other threads most of my 8200 local notes are static and contain PDFs.  I am using OneDrive/BoxCryptor/Windows Index and Search as a replacement for those local notebooks.  Encrypted on the web but searchable local.  Won't work quite as well if one has a bunch of text type local notes.  I recognize I will have to go to two places to find things which is the downside of EN removing local notebooks.

The harder bits for me are the tracking, GTD, workflow and ease of use that have been clobbered by V10.  I am not going to invest too much time on that until it becomes clear that legacy is about to get shot, or is indeed shot.  Some of the ease of use may be added back, who knows. 

Worse case if I don't make a move and 6.25.1 sunsets  I end up with a secondary search to confidential information and whatever beast V10 becomes.  My perspective is I can grind with V10 for a bit while determining what is best in market for me at that time.  YMMV.  However, I will be tracking improvements in the forums to evaluate hope and the market to evaluate alternatives.  Just taking the pulse not doing any surgery,  

Net of it all, I'm building a parallel local notebook process and using 6.25.1 until I can't or V10 miraculously (at this point the only word I can use) fixes itself. 

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48 minutes ago, CalS said:

At least your data doesn't go away if legacy desktop disappears.  One can slog through for some period with a functionally weaker, slower app.  Though not sure what my "for some period" would be if performance doesn't improve.  IAC your data will still be there though not baked in the best of wrappers.

 If there is anything at all urgent in the process it might be any local notes that you have.  Deciding what to do with those and perhaps creating a parallel system for some period may make sense.  There are a few providers with local note capability but they may be missing other key to you features.  As I've posted in other threads most of my 8200 local notes are static and contain PDFs.  I am using OneDrive/BoxCryptor/Windows Index and Search as a replacement for those local notebooks.  Encrypted on the web but searchable local.  Won't work quite as well if one has a bunch of text type local notes.  I recognize I will have to go to two places to find things which is the downside of EN removing local notebooks.

The harder bits for me are the tracking, GTD, workflow and ease of use that have been clobbered by V10.  I am not going to invest too much time on that until it becomes clear that legacy is about to get shot, or is indeed shot.  Some of the ease of use may be added back, who knows. 

Worse case if I don't make a move and 6.25.1 sunsets  I end up with a secondary search to confidential information and whatever beast V10 becomes.  My perspective is I can grind with V10 for a bit while determining what is best in market for me at that time.  YMMV.  However, I will be tracking improvements in the forums to evaluate hope and the market to evaluate alternatives.  Just taking the pulse not doing any surgery,  

Net of it all, I'm building a parallel local notebook process and using 6.25.1 until I can't or V10 miraculously (at this point the only word I can use) fixes itself. 

CalS, I would like to understand in what way I can continue using Legacy if they choose to disappear the desktop legacy version?  Currently, I use EN in multiple places and I count on Evernote's servers to sync all my data seamlessly so it's available no matter where I want to use it.  I use android, ipad, windows desktop and I use it at home, work and when I travel.  So, yes I understand that even if I were to disconnect my computer from the internet I could continue to use my desktop legacy EN but this is not useful for me.  

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59 minutes ago, idoc said:

CalS, I would like to understand in what way I can continue using Legacy if they choose to disappear the desktop legacy version?  Currently, I use EN in multiple places and I count on Evernote's servers to sync all my data seamlessly so it's available no matter where I want to use it.  I use android, ipad, windows desktop and I use it at home, work and when I travel.  So, yes I understand that even if I were to disconnect my computer from the internet I could continue to use my desktop legacy EN but this is not useful for me.  

You can't.  If they disappear the legacy desktop the only option to use EN is to convert to whatever current version of the desktop .  

My point in the above is we can continue to use EN after legendary sunsets though with "whatever beast V10 becomes" as the desktop client.  We just need to protect our local notes soon.  With a local notes solution in place I do not feel as much a sense of urgency as some on these forums to make a move.  Legendary 6.25.1 is working great for me.  It's fast, requires minimal clicks, and I've tuned it to my needs. 

I will leverage that productivity of 6.25.1 as long as I can.  If forced to change and EN is not the best solution for me at that time I will move to another app.  But not until then unless a new product appears which is the cat's meow.   🙂

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