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Collapsible toggle list in evernote notes


atb

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Hey Evernote,

I really would like a collapsible toggle list (like a toggle list in Notion). That would give a lot more structure in making notes! 

Is there something like this coming up in future versions? 

 

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2 hours ago, atb said:

Yes exactly! Or does this already exists in Evernote?? I thought only a normal toggle list (non collapsible) was possible... 

You are not alone. many of us would like to see collapsible sections added to Evernote. Workflowy is a nice app and would give you an immediate work around if you need that ability now, but it requires you to store notes in two apps and search both unless you go through the bother of exporting one and storing it into the other.

IMO this is a more useful feature than the recently added cross out list feature, and Evernote went through the time and effort to add that. Including this should be considered also.  This is becoming a standard feature in Evernote‘a competitive space.

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Yes exactly! Or does this already exists in Evernote?? I thought only a normal toggle list (non collapsible) was possible... 

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39 minutes ago, atb said:

Yes exactly! Or does this already exists in Evernote?? I thought only a normal toggle list (non collapsible) was possible... 

My point was that fully-featured note list apps already exist, and are quite easy to use - why should Evernote spend a great deal of time, effort and testing on shoe-horning something into Evernote and changing the menus (again) that a stand-alone app will always be better for?  And before you add that it's better to have the whole process in one app than have to shift to another - what about mind-maps / spreadsheets / databases / image editors / email clients etc etc...  we all use several apps during the day and what brings them all together is the device you use them on.

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3 hours ago, s2sailor said:

IMO this is a more useful feature than the recently added cross out list feature

Maybe we should have a vote-off between competing bells & whistles - but if one gets added,  then another... you're eventually going to have to choose between dozens of bloat-adding features that slow everything down.  IMO being able to work in another app is better - I can install my preferences and just use those;  you can install yours.. and neither choices affect how well or how slowly Evernote operates!

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18 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Maybe we should have a vote-off between competing bells & whistles

The vote button is at the upper left corner of the discussion

>>IMO being able to work in another app is better    

Agreed; a note can contain files of any format; word processing, spreadsheets, images, ...

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1 hour ago, gazumped said:

IMO being able to work in another app is better

IMO not when it requires storing notes in a separate app and then searching both to find what you need.  Workflowy is a work around and its existence is not a valid reason to suggest that Evernote not consider adding this feature. We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

1 hour ago, DTLow said:

Agreed; a note can contain files of any format; word processing, spreadsheets, images, ...

I agree with this in general, when the attached files are searchable.  Can a Workflowy file be attached to an Evernote and be searchable?  I don't think so, but I have not tried.

1 hour ago, DTLow said:

The vote button is at the upper left corner of the discussion

I would suggest merging this with the older thread.  I voted that one up years ago.

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26 minutes ago, s2sailor said:

Workflowy is a work around and its existence is not a valid reason to suggest that Evernote not consider adding this feature.

 

26 minutes ago, s2sailor said:

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Fair comment - but I reserve the right to request MindMap layouts, Trello boards and Visio diagrams, plus formula scripts, spreadsheets, presentation options and e-book reading too...

31 minutes ago, s2sailor said:

Can a Workflowy file be attached to an Evernote and be searchable?

Nope - but it's super-easy to embed a link to the actual text in a Note (with access options like read only if you want to share) and copy/ paste the finished layout into Evernote for indexing.  See https://workflowy.com/s/help/4KzavO0VGYdhp7RS

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This discussion under the Windows Requests forums is a duplicate of this long-standing feature request that has 627 "votes" and has been hanging around since 2011.

I am in the camp with @s2sailor and can't see any logical reason why a user of Evernote would be opposed to this.  I see them working very similar to the new "draggable" blocks in the editor, but allowing the option to collapse them.  Another alternative way this could be implemented would be to add another element to the "Insert" (Blue +) for a collapsable section.  Similar to adding a code block, you could highlight the section you want to make part of a collapsable section and add the block from the insert menu to provide a section of content that can be expanded or collapsed... ideally when collapsed it would display the first line of the text within the section. 

While it may be delusional thinking since this has been on the wish list since 2011... but I remain optimistic that this is one of the big features on the roadmap for post-v10.  However, the fact that it was not added to the editor with highlighters, check lists, etc. seems to suggest that this may be incompatible with the old editors... meaning that maybe it will be hung up until they get everyone off of the legacy versions.  And there are a LOT of other more pressing items they need to address before they can phase out the legacy apps... so this may still be a long way off.

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Yep - original discussion is here:  PLEASE VOTE THERE if you wish to support this...  (I'll leave others to decide whether to merge the two since it's up to 6 pages so far...)

  

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8 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Fair comment - but I reserve the right to request MindMap layouts, Trello boards and Visio diagrams, plus formula scripts, spreadsheets, presentation options and e-book reading too...

Sure, have at it, but, and we have had this discussion before, I think those examples are apples and oranges.  Both Evernote and Workflowy can be considered note apps with different features.  I'm suggesting that a feature Workflowy has be implemented in Evernote. 

11 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Nope - but it's super-easy to embed a link to the actual text in a Note (with access options like read only if you want to share) and copy/ paste the finished layout into Evernote for indexing.  See https://workflowy.com/s/help/4KzavO0VGYdhp7RS

Links are useful, but I still have to go to the other app to search.  I think it makes more sense to suggest Word as a workaround.  At least that file can be attached and searched by Evernote.

15 minutes ago, aukirk said:

However, the fact that it was not added to the editor with highlighters, check lists, etc. seems to suggest that this may be incompatible with the old editors... meaning that maybe it will be hung up until they get everyone off of the legacy versions.  And there are a LOT of other more pressing items they need to address before they can phase out the legacy apps... so this may still be a long way off.

Agreed.

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While I still hope that Evernote adds collapsable sections... I am blown away by Workflowy.... off to search on how power Evernote users integrate.  Would love to hear more about workflows between Workflowy and Evernote if anyone has any links... otherwise, hopefully I will find them shortly in my search

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2 hours ago, aukirk said:

Would love to hear more about workflows between Workflowy and Evernote

Don't know if there are specific links - my use case is kind've specific in that I have 50,000+ notes and around 300 notebooks and lots of rules about which note goes where.  My family are not overly technical or organised and if it should happen that I'm not around to explain where (forinstance) the user guide for the continuum transfunctioner is filed,  they probably would never find it. 

So the names of all my notebooks are in Workflowy,  with explanations of what goes in there.  It's a full 'family user' guide (which is easier to access) with links to notebooks like |UserGuides which lives in Evernote.  Likewise I have a long list (50 or so) of twitter tags for a website I help administer which is easier to edit and copy from in WF - under the notebook name of that particular project.

If you are planning to use WF to any great extent you should have a look at WFx* -which adds shortcuts and keystroke commands- plus there are various apps that are available - including a clipper.

* Wfx Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wfx-for-workflowy/jbehgpdjkcconnaagjhddddfdajbpfhi

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Registered only to leave a comment. If anything - google translate. I am a premium user of Evernote. And I seriously thought about moving to notion just because of the unfolding lists. Like spoilers. I think this feature is added at the click of a finger. If the programmers are smart. Therefore, Evernote, urgently finish this feature !!!

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On 1/10/2021 at 10:38 PM, calutiya said:

Registered only to leave a comment. If anything - google translate. I am a premium user of Evernote. And I seriously thought about moving to notion just because of the unfolding lists. Like spoilers. I think this feature is added at the click of a finger. If the programmers are smart. Therefore, Evernote, urgently finish this feature !!!

Totally agree on this one. I am a premium member for years, and I have collected thousands of notes. In my work I want to be able to search through them quickly,  attach every type of document (pdf, ppt etc) but also want to have a clear overview of each note via collapsible toggles. I think evernote should really put more effort into improving its hierarchical structure outside and inside a note, in order to keep up with the user- friendliness of its competitors. 

Of course you could suggest that there are other apps on the market for this feature, but I find that for example an app like  Notion does not have the capability of searching as quickly as evernote does, and also this app cannot store all type of documents. 
And ofcourse, I would really like to stay with evernote after all those years, but workflows are evolving... 

 

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15 hours ago, atb said:

I think evernote should really put more effort into improving its hierarchical structure outside and inside a note,

I agree that it would be useful to have the collapsible structure within the note. What do you want to see outside a note? For me the tag hierarchy (which now, for the first time, works across all platforms) gives me an infinitely flexible hierarchy outside of the individual note.

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On 1/18/2021 at 1:31 PM, Mike P said:

I agree that it would be useful to have the collapsible structure within the note. What do you want to see outside a note? For me the tag hierarchy (which now, for the first time, works across all platforms) gives me an infinitely flexible hierarchy outside of the individual note.

Yes, in the last couple of days I improved my tags, and you are right, that is very flexible indeed. Now let's hope that we can overview long notes in the future at a glance via a collapsible structure within the note! 

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