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I'm quickly trying to catch up with things right now.  It seems to me that the focus will be on Evernote for the Web and not on the user's machine.  But my basic issue is the same.

Evernote's key reason for being is to help people stay organized with content.  It allows us to put all sorts of different content in custom-designed databases for retrieval when needed.

One of the chief tools to finding that content is the ability to search all our content easily.

Without good search tools we are dead in the water. Imagine the Library of Congress without a searchable database or the WWW without search engines.

It seems that Evernote 7.14 is not successful in using Spotlight.  So for those of us who depend on that, we must do 2 searches: Spotlight and  Evernote.  I don't believer the new 10.0 would be able to search online and on or own machines, either.  (Correct me if I'm wrong.)  I lose track of where I place things so often, I am petitioning the Pope to make Waldo a Saint.  It seems Evernote is abandoning a tool that is a requisite in its very existence.

Evernote has been helping me simplify my life.  Losing the ability to search all my content simply threatens continued progress.  We are all inundated with content, so I don't think this is just my need. I hope I've jumped to some conclusions or made some incorrect assumptions.  It feels like I've been in a wheelchair for years and finally found a simple crutch that lets me walk, but now that crutch is being taken away.

Without the ability of being able to search all one's content easily, Evernote will no longer be needed by most customers.

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1 minute ago, Ryq G said:

It seems to me that the focus will be on Evernote for the Web and not on the user's machine.

Hi.  It doesn't seem to me to make a difference where the 'focus' is as long as we have access via desktop, web and mobile clients - which is still the case.

3 minutes ago, Ryq G said:

One of the chief tools to finding that content is the ability to search all our content easily.

Which (AFAIK) is still possible via whichever app you happen to be using.

4 minutes ago, Ryq G said:

It seems Evernote is abandoning a tool that is a requisite in its very existence.

Spotlight is a Mac-only feature.  Evernote has been under pressure for ages to give everyone access to their data on any app in any OS - which means that some app-specific features can't be supported.  Windows/ Android users don't have an equivalent - we'll have to do two searches.  (Although if you're a haphazard saver,  you could keep links to your device-based items in Evernote too,  so an Evernote search will find everything.)

7 minutes ago, Ryq G said:

Losing the ability to search all my content simply threatens continued progress.

You still have the ability,  it's just in two searches now...

8 minutes ago, Ryq G said:

Without the ability of being able to search all one's content easily, Evernote will no longer be needed by most customers.

... by most Mac customers?  LIke I say no-one else had a comparable feature!

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11 minutes ago, Ryq G said:

we must do 2 searches: Spotlight and  Evernote.

I agree the Evernote search feature is important
I don't use Spotlight to search my Evernote data

I know Spotlight was announced as a feature,    
however it's Mac only, and it caused all sorts of problems - I disabled the Evernote directories from the indexing

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On 11/19/2020 at 12:24 PM, gazumped said:

Hi.  It doesn't seem to me to make a difference where the 'focus' is as long as we have access via desktop, web and mobile clients - which is still the case.

I wasn't representing anyone but myself.  It does make a difference to me.  And I would think most would agree that searching once is better than twice.

Which (AFAIK) is still possible via whichever app you happen to be using.

Spotlight is a Mac-only feature.  Evernote has been under pressure for ages to give everyone access to their data on any app in any OS - which means that some app-specific features can't be supported.  Windows/ Android users don't have an equivalent - we'll have to do two searches.  (Although if you're a haphazard saver,  you could keep links to your device-based items in Evernote too,  so an Evernote search will find everything.)

I used to be able to do it.   What features would be missing to keep spotlight as the one search.

Using Evernote to search throughout might be an acceptable alternative.   I have not seen how to do that.

On 11/19/2020 at 12:24 PM, gazumped said:

You still have the ability,  it's just in two searches now...

... by most Mac customers?  LIke I say no-one else had a comparable feature!

I have not surveyed every Mac User, but I think it is reasonable to assume that searching one tije and finding all the information in one place is superior to doing it twice with two applications.  I didn't say all.  Some people prefer making their lives more difficult.

 

On 11/19/2020 at 12:24 PM, gazumped said:

Hi.  It doesn't seem to me to make a difference where the 'focus' is as long as we have access via desktop, web and mobile clients - which is still the case.

Which (AFAIK) is still possible via whichever app you happen to be using.

Spotlight is a Mac-only feature.  Evernote has been under pressure for ages to give everyone access to their data on any app in any OS - which means that some app-specific features can't be supported.  Windows/ Android users don't have an equivalent - we'll have to do two searches.  (Although if you're a haphazard saver,  you could keep links to your device-based items in Evernote too,  so an Evernote search will find everything.)

You still have the ability,  it's just in two searches now...

... by most Mac customers?  LIke I say no-one else had a comparable feature!

Doing twice as much work may be fine for you.  Don't minimize the impact on others. As far as not  having the feature.  Spotlight currently searches in all applications.  So they have all allowed Spotlight to work.  But even if that weren't the case,  the abioity to search once would be a competitive edge.  Wny would they stop supporting a co=mpetitive edge.

If you can tell me how Evernote can search itself and other places, it would be easier than doign double work...it may be a close 2nd choice.

I appreciate that you and I and others have different needs.  If you needed something I would encourage you to ask for that to be taken care of.  If I didn't need it, I wouldn't disagree with it being done for you.

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On 11/19/2020 at 12:25 PM, DTLow said:

I agree the Evernote search feature is important
I don't use Spotlight to search my Evernote data

I know Spotlight was announced as a feature,    
however it's Mac only, and it caused all sorts of problems - I disabled the Evernote directories from the indexing

I can understand shutting down a feature if it doesn't run well or creates other problems.  I would hope they are trying to find a way for it to work.

Right now I have spotlight indexing my entire drive and I exclude video and music files.

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