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Presentation Mode is Gone in the New Update, Need it Back


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I have been a faithful user of Evernote since 2012. The PRESENT mode was absolutely vital to me. I now see myself forced too use Evernote Legacy and I started looking for other apps. Very unfortunate move from Evernote.

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Yes. I feel the same way. Presentation Mode is why I pay Evernote Premium. For me, making notes into presentations is one of the best features this app had. Now I'm looking for other alternatives to present my notes and the migration process from Evernote to another app is painful and costly. I think Evernote must take this into consideration. There are many people like me who build their workflow using the feature and now it looks  like all that work is lost. 

 

 

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The temporary solution I've found is neither "new" or an alternative, but rather a stopgap and that is to install Evernote Legacy

This gave me back the usability I need (Presentation Mode primarily) until Evernote returns that feature to their latest product version. Until then, I will be looking for a workable alternative. I would really rather stay with Evernote because it has been invaluable to me, in particular over these past few years as an educator, but if I find a solid alternative, I may have no choice to jump-ship. With Evernote developers remaining silent (so far) as to whether Presentation Mode will return, they really leave me with no choice because I fear that support for Legacy will end suddenly with no advance warning.

If that happened mid-semester, it could be disastrously disruptive.

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It was very disappointing when they removed presentation mode from the app versions, as that version used to allow me to present my lectures right from my phone or iPad. But without presentation mode in the desktop version, Evernote loses all functionality for me. It was a breath of fresh air for creating clean and crisp presentation slides directly from well-formatted lecture notes that students could follow along with in class and edit. I even wrote about it here to share the feature others. I noticed on the beta testing that the feature was gone and so figured it wouldn't make it into this recent release :( I downloaded a copy of the old installation file and will have to just keep using the old version without any updates until I assume at some point it will likely stop working. It seems like it is a feature that is integral to a small number of users, for whom without it Evernote ceases to be of much use at all, but unfortunately, it seems that this small group is too small. However, I think it should be noted that this small group likely brings in many new users to Evernote by introducing Evernote to students. I've been using Evernote to lecture to university students for the past 6 years. I teach 200+ students per year, which means that at least 1,200 university students have downloaded Evernote while in my classes. Many mention to me that they end up continuing to use Evernote for their other courses and general note taking and organization - with quite a few purchasing a paid student plan. Thus, while those 1,200 may never use presentation mode themselves, they only found and became Evernote users because of the presenter view feature that allows me to make Evernote a centrepiece to all of the courses that I teach. 

 

 

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On 12/15/2020 at 5:40 PM, drblair said:

It was very disappointing when they removed presentation mode from the app versions, as that version used to allow me to present my lectures right from my phone or iPad. But without presentation mode in the desktop version, Evernote loses all functionality for me. It was a breath of fresh air for creating clean and crisp presentation slides directly from well-formatted lecture notes that students could follow along with in class and edit. I even wrote about it here to share the feature others. I noticed on the beta testing that the feature was gone and so figured it wouldn't make it into this recent release :( I downloaded a copy of the old installation file and will have to just keep using the old version without any updates until I assume at some point it will likely stop working. It seems like it is a feature that is integral to a small number of users, for whom without it Evernote ceases to be of much use at all, but unfortunately, it seems that this small group is too small. However, I think it should be noted that this small group likely brings in many new users to Evernote by introducing Evernote to students. I've been using Evernote to lecture to university students for the past 6 years. I teach 200+ students per year, which means that at least 1,200 university students have downloaded Evernote while in my classes. Many mention to me that they end up continuing to use Evernote for their other courses and general note taking and organization - with quite a few purchasing a paid student plan. Thus, while those 1,200 may never use presentation mode themselves, they only found and became Evernote users because of the presenter view feature that allows me to make Evernote a centrepiece to all of the courses that I teach. 

 

 

wow, this was exact the scenario how I was attracted by evernote: During a lecture in the university seeing my tutor using evernote with presentation mode! 

Also this function was the main reason for me to pay for the premium...

It's such a shame to see they took it off in the new version...

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Currently I use Dropbox Paper as an alternative for the presentation mode. But I don't use the presentation mode that often, so it's fine with me.

What I like about Dropbox Paper is the intuitive editor, ability to cross-link documents and even Dropbox attachments. In fact I like the editor better than Evernote and I've sent many feedback emails and suggestions to Evernote Team about this.

But, the DroBox Paper does not come close to Evernote when it comes to multi-platform apps, the Evernote Web Clipper, the new Search performance, tagging and organizing notes...

With thousands of notes, DropBox Paper would be a mess... My Evernote is very organised and I can find any note (and related notes) in seconds even after many years.

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I agree with all the other posts on this forum. Presentation mode was a key feature for me as I used it routinely for leading meetings. I'm not sure who at Evernote thought it would be a good idea to remove this feature. Although I've loyally used Evernote for at least 8 years and have recommended it to many, I believe Evernote's days are numbered for me if presentation mode does not return. I always created my meeting agenda in Evernote and then used Presentation mode to seamlessly present it. Now I'm forced to either find an alternative or use the legacy version while it remains functional.  

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Hello, I realized the Presentation Mode is gone in the new MacOS update. Presentation Mode is the ONLY reason I paid years of Premium Membership for. I use it almost on a daily basis. I would regret to cancel if this feature is now removed for good. But I hope you can bring it back soon. 
If this feature does not come back, I reserve the right to sue you.

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basically, i echo everyone's sentiment on here. I wasn't going to post because i cannot possibly vocalize this better than others who've already posted, but maybe the sheer number of complaints will force evernote to bring it back.  I'm blown away that they'd link it's OK to take this feature away.  

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For the time being one can use the legacy client with all the features we know and like.

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote

In parallel prepare for something else, since legacy will stop working one day, be it because of OS changes, or because EN develops further. Personally I doubt that features that were officially discontinued with the release of v10 will come back. Others not mentioned maybe, but those explicitly mentioned are probably gone for good.

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Adding my name to the long list of people upset with the removal of presentation mode. I'm a lecturer and it was the ONLY reason I paid for premium. The lack of response from the devs team about this is also a bit galling. I expected them to FIX the formatting issues of presentation mode, not to ditch the feature entirely. I'm currently migrating all my content into another format, just in case, but I'm REALLY hoping they bring this back before my next account renewal.

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Just wanted to chime in here and second the above in the hopes that it adds to motivate bringing presentation mode back. I found it very useful, especially in video meetings.  Post-lockdown a much larger proportion of meetings will be video still, so very useful for that context in future too.

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Definitely one of the many features having been removed from V10 without a proper and convincing explanation. Bring it back, please. Or offer a valuable alternative. I've used it for spaced repetition.

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8 minutes ago, merman said:

Definitely one of the many features having been removed from V10 without a proper and convincing explanation. Bring it back, please. Or offer a valuable alternative. I've used it for spaced repetition.

I don't know if you have an  iOS device, but if you do an alternative for Evernote + spaced repetition is the app neuracache. It supports importing notes from Evernote and the only requirement is that you format your cards via two column tables in the note. It's not on the roadmap officially but the developer has mentioned that a MacOs app may come in the future.

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6 hours ago, merman said:

Definitely one of the many features having been removed from V10 without a proper and convincing explanation. Bring it back, please. Or offer a valuable alternative. I've used it for spaced repetition.

GoodNotes 5 now has a spaced repetition feature, both on iOS and the Mac app. It is still defined as experimental, but it works pretty good already. It uses a special page format, with the top half for the question and the bottom half for the answer.

They have a presentation mode as well, although it is quite different to the p-mode EN has just skipped. Presentation mode in GN5 is more like a whiteboard. You can only share the whiteboard itself, keeping the rest of the screen for yourself.

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On 12/15/2020 at 11:40 AM, drblair said:

It was very disappointing when they removed presentation mode from the app versions, as that version used to allow me to present my lectures right from my phone or iPad. But without presentation mode in the desktop version, Evernote loses all functionality for me. It was a breath of fresh air for creating clean and crisp presentation slides directly from well-formatted lecture notes that students could follow along with in class and edit. I even wrote about it here to share the feature others. I noticed on the beta testing that the feature was gone and so figured it wouldn't make it into this recent release :( I downloaded a copy of the old installation file and will have to just keep using the old version without any updates until I assume at some point it will likely stop working. It seems like it is a feature that is integral to a small number of users, for whom without it Evernote ceases to be of much use at all, but unfortunately, it seems that this small group is too small. However, I think it should be noted that this small group likely brings in many new users to Evernote by introducing Evernote to students. I've been using Evernote to lecture to university students for the past 6 years. I teach 200+ students per year, which means that at least 1,200 university students have downloaded Evernote while in my classes. Many mention to me that they end up continuing to use Evernote for their other courses and general note taking and organization - with quite a few purchasing a paid student plan. Thus, while those 1,200 may never use presentation mode themselves, they only found and became Evernote users because of the presenter view feature that allows me to make Evernote a centrepiece to all of the courses that I teach. 

 

 

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I know at least one other person on the forum has mentioned this, but Dropbox Paper does seem to be a bit of a replacement for this feature. If you copy/paste your evernote note into Dropbox Paper, it will save wherever you had ‘breaks’ for slides. You can add new slide breaks as well by adding a divider. Unfortunately, the breaks (section breaks) are visible (lines across the document), so it isn’t quite as smooth or seamless as the Evernote presentation mode where you only enter the breaks while in presentation mode. However, you can pick between a light or dark background, and advance slide to slide. I really liked being able to share a public version of an Evernote Notebook with my students, as then they’d have all of my lecture notes all in one place. With Dropbox, I suppose the equivalent would be sharing a folder with them, which doesn’t seem quite as useful - I preferred getting them set up in Evernote themselves so that they could copy the lecture note and then take their own notes inside of their copy of my notes during class. 
For presenting, Evernote has the superior solution, so it really remains really frustrating and unfortuante that they’ve cancelled the feature (unless you stick with the legacy mode). But, at least, this Dropbox Paper solution is better than nothing in the event that legacy mode stops working. 

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Here are some comparisons of Evernote Presentation and Dropbox Paper Presentation Modes. Evernote is on the Right, using the middle font size, and DropBox Paper is on the Left. 

Some Key Differences: 

  • On Dropbox, you cannot change the font size - all you get is the header and then a standard font size - which you can make Bold - but that's about it. On Evernote, you have the 3 different presentation font sizes that you can select right in the presentation mode - which is useful as it doesn't require making edits to the original note. 
  • Evernote turns your mouse into a colour laser-pointer - dropbox just has your mouse
  • Both can switch easily between dark/light modes 
  • Dropbox Paper can be accessed from a browser - meaning you don't need your own computer with Evernote installed to access it- this seems useful for lecture, as you could just lecture from the computer in the classroom, from an iPad, etc. Evernote originally had presentation mode on the mobile app but removed it (and early sign that presentation features weren't going to be a priority). 
  • Evernote is superior for sharing your notes with students, but it can still be accomplished with Dropbox. You can provide a share view only link, you could make a copy that would be a regular word document and place in a shared folder on dropbox that students have access to. I prefer Evernote here where I can create a shared notebook - I usually had two notebooks per class - one for my version of the lecture notes and then I would copy my lecture notes into the Student shared notebook (public) and sometimes make a few changes (remove announcements, take out some pictures to make the note file size smaller, etc.). This seems like it would not work as seamlessly in dropbox paper, but wouldn't be impossible either. 
  • Copying your notes from Evernote where you have previously presented them and pasting them into DropBox paper preserves the slide breaks you inserted in Evernote! In Evernote, when looking at the note in note form, the breaks are not visible (preferable option), whereas in DropBox paper, the breaks show up, so every few lines you have a line across the page (less preferable). But, in terms of taking old lectures/presentations from Evernote and transferring them to Dropbox Paper, it is nice that the line breaks remain. Of course, if you upgrade to the new Evernote and lose presentation mode, then those breaks will probably disappear and certainly won't be there for any new notes created in Evernote post-presentation mode being available. In DropBox, you just add a "section break" and that will work as a line break in presentation mode. 
  • Evernote presentation mode long ago lost it's nice presentation font - and the issue was never fixed - (again, early sign that they weren't going to keep it). The font for dropbox paper is more visually pleasing, but you still don't have options when it comes to presentation mode. For formatting text, you have the options of bold, italic, underline, strike through, highlighted, bullet points. For font size, you have Heading 1, Heading 2, and regular - but it would be a bit annoying to create your whole document in something like Heading 2 just to have a larger font size during presentation. 
  • Dropbox Paper doesn't get my CPU going the same way that Evernote presentation mode does - so that's another bonus, especially if recording lectures from home during COVID - as sometimes with Evernote presentation mode the fan on my computer would really get going - to the point that it was audible in the video recording. I wonder if this issue may be part of the reason that they removed the feature. 

Anyway - it's not ideal, but it seems that Dropbox Paper might be the best option going forward until someone makes something better. With. just a few tweaks to Dropbox Paper it could indeed surpass the original functionality of Evernote Presentation Mode, and with presentation mode gone, it's obviously better than nothing if not running legacy mode. 

 

 

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The DropBox suggestion is very useful - thank you! For me this is about Evernote as a research tool and being able to quickly present fresh material to members of a team. The presentation function was a valuable extension of the other functions that make Evernote a good tool for gathering the materials.

Ah well. Hopefully Evernote will reconsider.

Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated.

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Evernote, please re-add this feature. It was a huge reason I paid for premium too. If it's not put back I will most likely look elsewhere and not renew.

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Thank you for the pointer to Dropbox Paper. It resembles Markdown, and "---" acts as a separator in its presentation mode. Dropbox saved me when Evernote let me down.

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Thanks for pushing this request! I would love to not just see Presentation Mode coming back to the Mac version but also to iPad! 😍

If you feel the same, please consider supporting my request here as well: 

 

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There is no „back“ for the iPad, it never existed for the mobile platform. It would probably be hard to implement, because the mobile clients only load one note at a time.

But one should have dreams ...

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It actually did exist circa 2015 and earlier - you could use presentation mode directly from a mobile device. It was amazing - you could just tap your phone and the slide would advance. I used to use it with airplay to stream to an Apple TV connected to a projector - could then walk all over the room and keep advancing (and seeing) slides from your phone. 

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You also only need one note for presentation mode to work - presentation mode presents one single note but allows you to break it up into individual slides. 

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4 hours ago, drblair said:

It actually did exist circa 2015 and earlier - you could use presentation mode directly from a mobile device. It was amazing - you could just tap your phone and the slide would advance. I used to use it with airplay to stream to an Apple TV connected to a projector - could then walk all over the room and keep advancing (and seeing) slides from your phone. 

I was equally disappointed when it disappeared as I am now. And there was a similar thread in the discussion forum. The feature did not come back.

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@PinkElephant I appreciate your effort to come up with a workaround. But do you really call installing an old version of Evernote a feasible solution? At least for me installing outdated versions of Apps is not a way to go.

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You may call it bravery - I call it self inflicted pain.

Currently I am using both clients side by side, each one for what it does better. What counts for me are the results, not the version number. Initially v10 was only for testing, but with the new releases I notice that I shift more and more to the new client.

In one aspect I agree with you: Presentation mode is gone, so maybe better get used to not having it around sooner than later.

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Nice try, but I doubt it will help with anything.

I think EN made an analysis of which feature was used how often, and by how many users. Presentation mode as it was set up was like an independent plug in, not sharing a lot of code (probably) with the rest of EN, but making for a more complex data structure and editor for all users. Personally I don’t think it will come back, tweeted or not, and I think there are many features still on the v10 backlog that have a greater importance for all users than the return of presentation mode.

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