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Provide ability to set Default Font


Mr.P

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Default fonts:

There does not appear to be a way of changing the default fonts in a new note, is this correct, can it be reintroduced?

Templates:

Using a template to create a new note with previously applied styling saves time. However, if you add new text fields to the note they do not honour the template and revert to the original preset parameters. Is this correct, can this be reintroduced?

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This has bothered me for a while and I (sort of) found a solution.  

In your Note, set the font how you like it and click the drop down next to "Normal Text".  Select "Update 'Normal text' to match".  This will make the set the default font for that page.  From what I can tell, the update only applies to that page.

Hopefully this helps a little.

 

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Hello all,

This has been discussed before in regard to earlier versions, but I can't find anything on 10.0 and above. Any help is much appreciated!

When I go to "preferences," the only option I am given is "Save Data at Log Out." There is no way for me to select a default note size. Also, ever since the "upgrade" (really a downgrade), all my notes have been transformed into 16-point font (they'd previously been 11- or 12-point). It seems I am now obligated to manually change the font of previously existing notes 😑

Finally, even when I "select all" (particularly when using a table) to try desperately to force Evernote NOT to use 16-point font, the font nonetheless reverts to 16-point font whenever I create a new row or column, or when I delete content from an existing column where 12-point font was used. Endlessly frustrating…

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This is a huge problem and I am trying to figure out a way to communicate this best to Evernote's support team. Fonts no longer match between iOS and the Mac app. Literally the 6 choices on the iOS app are not options on the Mac app, so when you're using the iOS app your notes look ridiculous. You have two different fonts on lists. 

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2 hours ago, paon said:

There is no way for me to select a default note size.

You are correct that the stripped-down v10 does not include any preferences...yet.  They will come back.  Meanwhile (apart from iOS) there's the Legacy version.

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I'm trying to change the default font (type, size...) for all new notebook. This should be a pretty core functionality but I can't find it.
Moreover, I try to select the whole notebook and change it to the type of font I want but as soon as I change the line, the font goes back to the default one.
The app doesn't even have a preferences menu (it only shows the option to "save data at log out). I can't even find an "update app" option.
Anybody knows if this is just a (huge) bug in the new desktop app? (I'm using 10.3.7).
 

Thanks!

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All fonts that are installed on devices are bound to this very Computer. A Windows computer comes with a font license for Windows fonts, a Mac with Mac fonts, etc. Legaly if you want to use a font from your PC on your Mac, you have to buy it. Nobody does, but a company like EN can’t simply steal the fonts from one computer and deliver it to all the  others, just because a user picked it.

If you want to show a note looking the same on all devices, the only way is to install the fonts right into the app. EN has done this, the Platform neutral feature was high on the list of items requested here in this forum.

Now the app does come with a (small) set of preinstalled fonts. The selection is not large, just enough to translate the big font families into an „EN“ font. Be it Arial, Calibri, Helvetica or San Franisco, in EN all will show as „San Serif“. It is now platform neutral, looks the same on all devices.

In other words, it is not a bug, it is a feature.

If you need font control, use a word processor or page layout program, and store the document as attachment in a note.

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22 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

All fonts that are installed on devices are bound to this very Computer. A Windows computer comes with a font license for Windows fonts, a Mac with Mac fonts, etc. Legaly if you want to use a font from your PC on your Mac, you have to buy it. Nobody does, but a company like EN can’t simply steal the fonts from one computer and deliver it to all the  others, just because a user picked it.

If you want to show a note looking the same on all devices, the only way is to install the fonts right into the app. EN has done this, the Platform neutral feature was high on the list of items requested here in this forum.

Now the app does come with a (small) set of preinstalled fonts. The selection is not large, just enough to translate the big font families into an „EN“ font. Be it Arial, Calibri, Helvetica or San Franisco, in EN all will show as „San Serif“. It is now platform neutral, looks the same on all devices.

In other words, it is not a bug, it is a feature.

If you need font control, use a word processor or page layout program, and store the document as attachment in a note.

I just want to change the default font size from 16 to 18. Doesn't seem like a crazy feature. ;)

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23 hours ago, gazumped said:

Hi.  Release notes mention that preferences will follow in due course,  but meantime there is (AFAIK) no flexibility in font choices.  What you see is what you get.

Crazy to release a version like this (which is clearly a beta) without a proper warning. 

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This is really unbelievable. Losing control over fonts, not just for new notes but for all of my existing notes, is really tragic. I hope there is a plan to rectify this soon, otherwise there's no reason to continue using this.

 

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I am facing the problem as stated by others too. The new version of Evernote doesn't have default fonts feature. My notes in older version of Evernote were in different fonts and size, now I would have to manually change them, that too with very limited options at my hand. I request everyone team to kindly look into this matter and resolve this issue as soon as possible. It would end up may users like me give up Evernote eventually, I apprehend.

Please do the needful.

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i am so frustrated with this, too! Where is the UX/UI team? don't they understand the very basic thing about note taking is for a long body of text it HAS to be serif!! Have you ever read an entire book in Sans Serif?? Also, font 16 which is the default one is TOO BIG, while 14 is TOO SMALL, i need 15!! I can't believe they keep updating without compromising this smallest and basic detail. 

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I am also incredibly frustrated by this and all app developers who think that adding their own cute fonts makes the app unique, it sucks and is not functioning. Not to mention the cut and paste is consistently frustrated by formatting of source materials of external apps.

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IMHO the new editor is quite a step forward, and I don’t need a basket full of fonts to take a note. If I want fonts and font control, I use a real DTP program or at least a good word processor.

But if you want to stick to old habits, here you go:

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314

Warning: Nobody knows for how long legacy will continue to work.

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Latest update took away font selection. If I can't find ARIAL by February I will have to find another database program so I can cut-n-paste between programs again. (I assume someone is working on this.)

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I understand that Evernote thinks it's super important to limit the fonts, because apparently everyone is syncing and sharing notes with all kinds of other people, and cross-platform unity has been requested. Fine. 

But isn't there a way to allow that to be the default behavior, but also build in a secret power-user setting to allow people to, you know, pick their own fonts? This is a major issue for me, so much so that after years of paying for Evernote, today I downloaded some alternatives to play around with (Keep It looks like it works with my workflow)

 

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The issue I'm having with the new Evernote is that the new 16pt default text size is too small for me to read. Only workaround is to magnify the window view which does make the fonts larger on screen, but because its magnified it also makes most of my notes run off the right side of the window and I have to scroll horizontally to see the rest of the note. (I mostly use tables to organize notes)

Please bring back the feature for default text size! I would think text size is fundamental. If the letters are too small and its hard to read the note....what's the point of using the software? 

Fundamentally I'm using it to read and review... aren't I?

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The issue I'm having with the new Evernote is that the new 16pt default text size is too small for me to read. Only workaround is to magnify the window view which does make the fonts larger on screen, but because its magnified it also makes most of my notes run off the right side of the window and I have to scroll horizontally to see the rest of the note. (I mostly use tables to organize notes)

Please bring back the feature for default text size! I would think text size is fundamental. If the letters are too small and its hard to read the note....what's the point of using the software? 

Fundamentally I'm using it to read and review... aren't I?

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17 hours ago, danzip said:

The issue I'm having with the new Evernote is that the new 16pt default text size is too small for me to read.

That’s exactly what I was pointing out. It’s too small for many people and they won’t let you change it. How dumb is that!

Evernote is trying too hard for us, paying customers, to just go away. 

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On 1/20/2021 at 7:56 PM, danzip said:

The issue I'm having with the new Evernote is that the new 16pt default text size is too small for me to read. Only workaround is to magnify the window view which does make the fonts larger on screen, but because its magnified it also makes most of my notes run off the right side of the window and I have to scroll horizontally to see the rest of the note. (I mostly use tables to organize notes)

Please bring back the feature for default text size! I would think text size is fundamental. If the letters are too small and its hard to read the note....what's the point of using the software? 

Fundamentally I'm using it to read and review... aren't I?

This is exactly why I reverted back to EN for Mac 7.14 after seeing what happened to my notes in v-10.

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" I would think text size is fundamental."

You would think right.

Evernote is a text capture tool.
Not being able to change the default text size is like being forced to drive in "2" gear before you're able to switch to D.

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Is everyone voting away at the top left here?  There are only 14 in favour of this so far..

As is their normal practice,  Evernote haven't said whether they're sticking with a limited choice of fonts and font sizes,  or will widen out their options when it fits their priorities.  Logic would suggest that this IS a fundamental option for any word-based application,  but with Evernote this year - who knows. 

On the bright side,  no-one has said this won't happen...  

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I would just like to know what their plans are. Are they going to offer more fonts in the future and which fonts. There are a few that are pretty easy to copy between all programs. I don't need every font out in the wild but how about at a minimum the severely limited fonts available by GMail + Times New Roman.... or maybe the fonts that are available on this forum.

 


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3 hours ago, SparksinTexas said:

I would just like to know what their plans are. Are they going to offer more fonts in the future and which fonts.

Evernote has been very clear about their plans for the list of fonts, however they only list generic descriptive names

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Since we do not know when the EN developers will give us a more flexible and multi-device management of our fonts, I found the easiest way is to install EvernoteLegacy in addition to your version of EN. I close down EN and open EvernoteLegacy. I have not tried what happens when I leave my version of EN open.

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314

Here I can create and fix all my font needs. Then close EvernoteLegacy and use the latest version (in my case 10.8.4) with all its improvements.

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Both clients can run side by side - technically. However this can cause syncing conflicts, if the same note is edited. 

So from a practical view I would not actively use both at the same time.

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Yes, PinkElephant, our EN files are too valuable as to risk further conflicts. It is easy to close down EN, use the Legacy client, fix the font problems, and then open the files in EN again and have the pleasure of the perfection that we require.

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2 hours ago, Alex9999 said:

I"m dyslexic and this is wiping me out. I need large opendyslexic back please! 

Hi. We're mostly users here - better to raise this with Support to make your point.  Another reader has pointed out that if you can install the Legacy Desktop version somewhere and create new notes in that,  the fonts assigned in Legacy will carry over to v10. 

Haven't tried it,  but it might help until the company sort themselves out...

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