New notes now focus *body* instead of *title*. How to change back?

[soundsgoodtome 134]

When I create a new note, I want to start with the title, not the body. That's how it's been for years. Why would you change this? 

If you believe some users want this new behavior, please, please make this a preference we can specify.

(Speaking of which, what happened to preferences? Now there's no centralized place for settings? WTH?)

[Paul A. 274]

I'm indifferent to this particular change, I think it has Pros and Cons, although I understand why a change in functionality would irritate some people.

But a small workaround which might make your life easier is use Shift-Tab to move to the subject line after creating a note. This is helpful if you create a note from the keyboard and want to efficiently move to the title without taking your hands off the keyboard.

[SamuelTremblay 1]

I love the way Evernote give a feature in one version and then remove the feature in another one and just say to their user that they just have to do "Shift-Tab".

That would be nice to buy a car and at some point, after an update of the firmware of the computer engine, the brake and accelerator would be inversed and the engineering indicating that you just have to push on the accelerator now when you want to stop the car.

The least minimum would be a "Sorry" from Evernote to the people that pay for this application and don't forget that is this money that pay for their jobs.

Not supprised that so many people goes to Notion.

[Rick Shenkman Seattle 1]

Yes yes yes.

[halr9000 7]

I bothered to create a forum account to vote this one up. Kinda dissatisfied that this was a solved problem, then broken, then there was an option for Windows, but not for macos.

[MissArdbeg 47]

Completely agree. Same applies for iOS. And basically any kind of capturing (EN Helper when it is available again, Apple Watch when it is available again ...). Please let people choose what best fits to their workflow or start with the title. Starting with body is really unintuitive.

[knolte 2]

Agreed! I'm still trying to get used to this change. Wish there could at least be a toggle for this in preferences. 

[James | Headquarters 48]

I see the utility in both approaches. Ultimately when you want to make a note of something, it's very likely that most people want to just crack on and write the stuff down/start recording/drawing etc. 

Preferences option for sure.

[halr9000 7]

9 hours ago, James | Headquarters said:

it's very likely that most people

If you have data to justify that opinion, that would be interesting. But I disagree with it.  

 

[James | Headquarters 48]

21 minutes ago, halr9000 said:

If you have data to justify that opinion, that would be interesting. But I disagree with it.  

 

Sadly I do not. We'll call it an educated guess. We'll have to agree to disagree.

[Andrea Bisiach 15]

This is really bad and connected with another bug I reported elsewhere. If one browses with key up and down the note list and suddenly hits a note without body, the cursor jumps automatically to the note body and I can no longer use key up and down.

I looks like a badly designed and implemented shortcut to start quickly typing in the body.

I want to be able to have notes with only a title without being forced to edit the body (i.e. like a quick reminder or todo)

If EN is really into forcing users to write a body in the note, well then I suggest to remove the Title field entirely.

Whatever is written on the very first line of the body could be considered the "tile" metadata and treated as such im views, api and so on. Not a a pretty solution but in line with some other twists we are experiencing in the product

 

[davidjconnolly 0]

Has anybody found a solution to this?  It interrupts my workflow and adds a click to evert note I create, driving me crazy after years of CTRL-N -> Start typing

[Paul A. 274]

22 hours ago, davidjconnolly said:

Has anybody found a solution to this?  It interrupts my workflow and adds a click to evert note I create, driving me crazy after years of CTRL-N -> Start typing

Shift-Tab is the only workaround that I'm aware of, as I mentioned further up thread:

 

[bmarshall_en 0]

Hate the new change that places focus in body. What UX "designer" thought this would be a good idea, particularly with no way to toggle it in the now nonexistent options?

Please fix this asap by either reverting to how it was (i.e., focus in title on new note) or make a way for us to toggle focus between title or body.

Do you review these changes with customers before pushing them out to everyone?

[doppmonster 0]

+1 on these: 

1) Why doesn't it focus the title anymore for new notes (Mac/Evernote 10.4.4) ? I'm more likely to end up with a bunch of untitled notes if you encourage me to write note first, title later. 

2) Speaking of which... where did preferences go...? Do we not need them anymore? Because if we're having different opinions about #1, then i think we need them. 

I'm not a forum user; this issue is bothering me enough that created an account here. Thanks for your consideration. 

[mirekstrnad 1]

Please, please, stop messing with your core users. I do not like this change, please make it optional.

[C Goddard 0]

Another +1 on this - I understand there's been a lot of redevelopment but I've been an Evernote user for nearly 10 years. This is a trivial thing to fix but it's an incredibly irritating thing for users who have a particular preferred workflow. 

Please add some kind of settings/configuration screen to the Mac app so that changes like this can be a user decision

[Dazla80 0]

Completely agree. This is annoying as when I create a quick note, I cant then peruse the title to see what I haev written. This detracts from speed and efficiency. Please start new notes in title on Mac.

[JCausey 0]

I support this.  It should be a preference choice, and since it was already built in, it should be easy to bring back.

[jenbenn 3]

This should be a preference, I hate it and am now starting to use other platforms to keep info just to avoid this issue.

[PinkElephant 2,774]

Some people prefer to start typing right away, and think about a title later. Others prefer to title first, and then start editing. If you belong to one fraction, you will be unhappy with the other solution. I personally prefer to start with the note, and add the title later.

Probably a switch in settings could pacify the discussion.