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My previous post was on a thread that was removed but to add insult to injury, if using the new EN the EXPORT function will only export in their proprietary .ENEX format. Previous to that the other choices allowed to export the text portion as HTML and the various attachments were extracted as .JPG, .PDF...etc. Now it's all one big XML blob.

If you want to migrate you better do it now using the Legacy version to export your attachments.

 

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It's unbelievable how such a good product can turn into such a bad thing that it induces a customer from years of using the product and the platform to start a process of mass migration of their data

I completely support the tenor of the first post. I am a heavy user of Evernote, I used it for more than 10 years up to 3-4 hours per day. The disappointment when I am forced to use the new

Version 10 has crazy painful losses compared to prior Version 7. key things to my workflow are removed    command J "Switch to ...." to navigate to a different folder  ... GONE!    command T

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1 hour ago, davidtderrick said:

Does this mean that .enex exporting will not include attachments?? All exporting involves some corruption of formatting and I REALLY do not want to do this, but I guess I may have to.

It does but not as separate JPG, PDF...etc. They're stored in hex format in the XML file.

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1 hour ago, bakula said:

if using the new EN the EXPORT function will only export in their proprietary .ENEX format

Confirmed, additional export options are pending    
I'm using the Legacy product for my data backups

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On 11/6/2020 at 2:59 PM, schaeffa said:

I am also finding that the app is so slow now that it is highly disruptive to work flow. Also, the “find in note” search function doesn’t work at all anymore. It either spends an hour searching for the first letter of the word I entered, or it just doesn’t turn up any results. Am I going to need to find a new platform?

Try Joplin.

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22 hours ago, jean jamin said:

It's very annoying when the Evernote CEO and Mr. Designer try to fool you, by basically only sharing their perspective https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nggD3PMO0EM Who uses 5 devices with different operating systems? This is presented as the major problem that had to be solved. Most use 1 device the most by far and occasionally watch through another device (no problem there). The fact that the user interface had to become more uniform was a problem for the manufacturer, not the user !! Everyone understands that this is a problem, but predominantly for the manufacturer! That great sacrifices had to be made from the user perspective for this is unforgivable to be honest. Make sure you only release something when it's all right and not a pale shadow of what I am used to as a user. But the worst part is that the gentlemen in their 'discussion' state for everything that is experienced as a problem that it only concerns 'a small percentage of the users' (tags for example) and that only that group finds it annoying that the tags were moved to the bottom. Everything that is a problem is made small and Mr. Designer goes to 'Polishing' as second step when the number of missing or poorly implemented functions is still enormous. After 12 years as a daily premium user and over 12000 notes, I am about to say goodbye to Evernote. I can endure too little too late, because I can still use the old app, but that they try to justify the fact that they are offending the most loyal users with a badly defective product is unacceptable.

Perfectly expressed. I fully agree with you. Going over the complaints here, it's easy to see that virtually all of us have the same complaints. EN have lost their bearings. FYI, I'm making a gradual move to Joplin. It's very similar to EN. It's free, and you use one of the cloud services you already have. The import worked flawlessly for me, over 3200 notes. No notes have been lost, and so far, it seems no information has been lost in any of the notes I've seen. I'm still furiious about the time I've wasted because of EN's ill-branded "upgrade".

Evernote is DEAD.

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7 hours ago, betnel said:

Absolutely very well said. There is a technique taught to customer service representatives to attempt to control the complaining customer. It centers on minimizing the complaint by suggesting that 'you are the only one' complaining or having this issue. Therefore, you are the problem, not the product or service. It seems like Evernote management & staff have all gone to that class! 

 

I think it is even worse: they are likely quoting actual numbers, however from a suspicious base sample. there might indeed be only 5% of EN accounts using tags. but that is not the correct metric. the question is what % of *paying* customers use tags. I am pretty sure that number is *not* 5%. one can beautifully tailor statistics to say almost anything you want and this is a nice yet sad example.

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On 10/10/2020 at 8:33 AM, MarcSant said:

It's unbelievable how such a good product can turn into such a bad thing that it induces a customer from years of using the product and the platform to start a process of mass migration of their data to the competition. 

How can a company do not make a market research, a survey among its loyal customers about what they expect or not from a new version. To me, if Evernote continues like this, it really died. And there it is to look for alternatives to other products, which maybe don't have all the features of Evernote but at least they don't charge us for what they can't offer, different from Evernote which keeps charging and at the same time has removed crucial functions for me.

Let's go to the list of CRUCIAL functions that have been removed, and that for me disfigure the whole product:

- There is no way to change the color of lateral toolbar from Dark. 

- There is no way to put shortcuts list in the top of screen. It will not move anymore

- There are only FIVE Fonts. For me that store computer code in the notes, it is A TERRIBLE choice

- Desktop App is a web based one, and notes are not synchronized anymore. Just turn off your Ethernet adapter and the program will not show notes anymore. The proof is that you are able to show "developer options" that show a web page render in the right side of the screen. Another proof is you can use the old classic version side by side with the new one, so the new version 10 is not using the database files that is stored locally.

- I can't change the Interface Language. I like to use English Interface, since I can have a lot of info in foruns instead to get translated the Brazilian version to English one.

- I can't create a Notebook inside the Notebook stack as I always did. You need to first create the Notebook, then move it to stack

- I can't grab a screen capture anymore

- I can't Paste text directly to Evernote note (CTRL+shitf+V) anymore

- I can't import a folder anymore

- I can't un-stack a Notebook from a stack using right click mouse. I need to drag an drop them. 

- I can't narrow a search inside a specific Notebook or Notebook Stack.

Please, if you noted some another missing feature, feel free to contribute to this list.

 

100% agree with this list. Its ridiculous Evernote has basically abandoned loyal customers (I've been using/paying for Evernote for over 5 years) and now I'm thinking about cancelling my subscription. 

 

What I'd like to add to this list: 

-The 'simplify formatting' function was removed

-The 'date created' for every note has now been changed to ONLY 'date last edited'. I'd like to choose which one I want or give me the option for both dates (as in the previous version) 

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2 hours ago, IanHinton said:

 and so far, it seems no information has been lost in any of the Joplin notes I've seen.

There *is* important information lost in the Joplin export format: all attached files are renamed to cryptic ID's . For me, this is a terrible design decision since all my attached files have meaningful names and are self contained. Why did they remove the original filename, why not appending the UID at the end of the filename instead? This way my files would be still searchable...

 

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Never been so annoyed in my life about an app change. Feels even worse than an app that starts crashing after an upgrade.

Users should be able to select the default action for a double click in the tray icon. I don't want a new note, I want to open evernote. I use it to look at old notes much more than I use it to create a new note.

Small annoyance: move the tag selector to the top. I tag everything and it is counter intuitive to have to go to the bottom to get to it.

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16 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Small annoyance: move the tag selector to the top. I tag everything and it is counter intuitive to have to go to the bottom to get to it.

Not gonna happen. That was a deliberate decision. CEO and design guy put a conversation on youtube where this was discussed. According to CEO, you are in 2% (or might be 5%, figure seems to change) of users who use tags.

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3 hours ago, IanHinton said:

Perfectly expressed. I fully agree with you. Going over the complaints here, it's easy to see that virtually all of us have the same complaints. EN have lost their bearings. FYI, I'm making a gradual move to Joplin. It's very similar to EN. It's free, and you use one of the cloud services you already have. The import worked flawlessly for me, over 3200 notes. No notes have been lost, and so far, it seems no information has been lost in any of the notes I've seen. I'm still furiious about the time I've wasted because of EN's ill-branded "upgrade".

Evernote is DEAD.

IF you complain about missing features and bad GUI in V10, then why do you migrate to Joplin? Joplin's GUI layout is almost identical to V10 and has less functionality and no wysiwyg editor (except for an experimental primitive editor), the tags are at the bottom of the screen...

I always thought that the advantage of markdown was that it is stored in a plain readable text file, but a Joplin file has it's own private format.

 

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7 minutes ago, tavor said:

Not gonna happen. That was a deliberate decision. CEO and design guy put a conversation on youtube where this was discussed. According to CEO, you are in 2% (or might be 5%, figure seems to change) of users who use tags.

I thought that the CEO said that they  consider to make the tags position configurable or something like that ?

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34 minutes ago, eric99 said:

Joplin's GUI layout is almost identical to V10 and has less functionality and no wysiwyg editor (except for an experimental primitive editor)

I always thought that the advantage of markdown was that it is stored in a plain readable text file, but a Joplin file has it's own private format.

Joplin allows use of outside editors. Typora seems to be a popular choice among Joplin users. I'm using it, and I love it, particularly the outline view (something I've wished EN had for years, and which made long notes in EN painful to deal with).

Not sure that's the only advantage of markdown, but markdown files can be read in a plain text editor like Notepad (Windows). Joplin stores data in a database file, like Evernote. With both apps and I would guess most note apps, the individual notes aren't stored as individual files. You can view notes using the app, or export them in whatever formats the app provides. In the case of Joplin, options include JEX (Joplin export format, analogous to ENEX), markdown, html, pdf. And if you choose markdown, you get individual markdown files that can be read in any plain text editor (or markdown editor of course).

27 minutes ago, eric99 said:

I thought that the CEO said that they  consider to make the tags position configurable or something like that ?

In the conversation between CEO and their design guy, it sounded like tags will remain on the bottom and out of the way of people who don't use tags (the allegedly 98%), but that there's more room at the bottom so they'll be able to take advantage of that to expand on tag functionality (I guess, though I can't imagine tags are going to get anymore emphasis under Ian Small than prior CEOs, given his claim about how only a sliver of users use tags).

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