The new Evernote 10 Version List of Missing Core Features

gazumped · October 7, 2020

Hi. First comment - you may want to change the tag line for this section: "If you have feedback related to the older version of Evernote for Windows, post here!" (my emphasis) - I think you mean the new one?

Some questions arise before I update my current version 6.25...

Is there a "step back" option? - i.e. once updated would I be able to revert to my 6.25 version if the new app is not performing well?
Local (unsynced) notes are no longer supported - do you still store local copies of the notes synced with the server database? I ask because I use Backupery's app to export my notes to ENEX on a daily basis and I'd like to continue to do so after updating.
For anyone wary of updating to the new version - how long do you forsee support for legacy versions continuing? Will there still be bug fixes and updates for those versions?
Presentation Mode is something which is very useful for academic users - is there any prospect of this coming back / some sort of integration with a presentation app?
Another service I use is Postach.io - will that app continue to be able to convert my notes to a blog?

I can work around the Outlook Clipper no longer being supported (there's still email!) but the list of unsupported features in the help page says (again my emphasis)

Quote

his is not an exhaustive list of features, but the most notable include:

Local notebooks

Presentation mode

Context

ScanSnap Evernote Edition firmware and software

Outlook clipper

Can we expect an exhaustive list of 'no longer supported' features anytime soon?

EdH · October 8, 2020

This sadly doesn't seem to be a new version of Evernote. It is an entirely different product that has access to our Evernote data in the cloud, but bears little resemblance in functionality to the Windows version of Evernote. So many features missing. This is worse than the iOS version, which, after being in the beta for a few weeks, opted out, installed Evernote 8.x from the App Store, then turned off automatic updates. So much is broken.

No import folders? No global note shortcut keys? This is unusable to anyone that has used Evernote for over a decade. ☹️

mi_cha · October 10, 2020

I`ve just installed the new v. 10 and I just couldn't believe my eyes: oh, no, they kept most of the horrible beta version they realeased a few weeks ago!

I would't call it an upgrade. I see it as a new concept, a whole new design - and they turned the back to old customers, simple as that.

I spend 90%> of my computer time at Evernote. It has been so for the past 11 years, my workflow is based on Evernote, I have thousands of notes.

They messed everything up.

My first shock (not yet recovered): they killed the local databases and syncing. Who asked me if I want to have all my notes on the cloud ALONE?

I'm collecting a list of missing functions and I'll add to this node.

For now, my statement is that the downgraded their own piece of software. They sacrified a robust desktop client in favour to an Andoid-like app: just the basics.

Not my idea of a note taking software.

mi_cha · October 11, 2020

I gave up trying v.10 and am back to previous v. 6.25.1.9091 (last stable version).

I use Evernote for work, not for leisure.

The poor design and missing features affect my workflow. I just can't afford it.

The whole situation is a true lack of respect. This release is an unfinished project - and a poor one.

I'll stick to the older version for now.

MarcSant · October 10, 2020

22 horas atrás, Shane D. disse:

@Dave-in-Decatur

Yes, we only support the new version of Evernote for Windows 10. If you're on an older version of Windows then the older version of Evernote is the only supported version currently available.

So, it's time to jump off the boat!

This in my humble opinion, the WORST Evernote version in the Entire Evernote History.

- No offline Sync, really? The best and core feature that distinguish Evernote from the others, and you remove it?

tell me that this is a joke, a REALLY bad one.

MarcSant · October 10, 2020

It's really sad. I started my migration plan. And I believe, I'm not alone on this.

lisec · October 12, 2020

I'm as pissed as everyone else, and really angry at Evernote for putting out this version without FULL details (surely they must have expected this blow-back), BUT, now that they have their 2 years worth of work leveling out the playing field across all platforms, which is what they said their intention was, I'm still willing to hang around for a bit and wait for all the missing features to be implemented. I mean at the end of the day, their BIG mistake was to put this out now instead of waiting until all they implemented all the features. So I'll hang on the older version and give them a bit of time to do their work. Yes, the screwed up big time with this, but it really was just an error of releasing too early. At least that's what I hope.

t8769 · October 15, 2020

New version is terrible

In Notes
Cannot remove note list
Cannot remove Left column
Cannot remove spellcheck
Cannot remove formatting bar
Cannot customise toolbar at top of note

The new version should be called 'Cannot 10.0'

s2sailor · October 7, 2020

3 hours ago, Shane D. said:

@gazumped Yes, you can still use an older version.

Please see this resource:
https://help.evernote.com/hc/articles/360052560314

@Shane D. can you provide a ballpark time frame for how long the Windows and Mac legacy versions will still be supported?

CalS · October 8, 2020

3 hours ago, EdH said:

This sadly doesn't seem to be a new version of Evernote. It is an entirely different product that has access to our Evernote data in the cloud, but bears little resemblance in functionality to the Windows version of Evernote. So many features missing. This is worse than the iOS version, which, after being in the beta for a few weeks, opted out, installed Evernote 8.x from the App Store, then turned off automatic updates. So much is broken.

No import folders? No global note shortcut keys? This is unusable to anyone that has used Evernote for over a decade. ☹️

Piling on. It's kind of like the car got a new set of tires and the chrome polished but the engine was removed in the process. Looks nice just can't go anywhere without pushing it 🤷‍♂️

Bryn26 · October 7, 2020

8 hours ago, Shane D. said:

@gazumped Yes, you can still use an older version.

Please see this resource:
https://help.evernote.com/hc/articles/360052560314

Thank god for this. Busy installing version 6 now. 10 is unusable imo. It's basically the beta but released to the public.

agsteele · October 8, 2020

Those of us who've been part of the Beta testing have been speaking up for a number of the functions that have been missed in this release. Notably we pressed for the Import Folders (since this also impacts on the scanning options as well), the ability to use personal shortcuts (perhaps using some form of local settings/options), a sync button (which gives a reassuring function although since the new sync is supposed to be instant it shouldn't be necessary but sometimes is), local folders, plus many other more individual use cases that still seemed to be important.

The ScanSnap scanning requirement that is mentioned will only work using the ScanSnap Home software (not the the older ScanSnap Manager) but this is apparently (and as noted above) not working well and requires firmware upgrades for the old ScanSnap for Evernote scanners.

It is quite possible to have the older version of Evernote (6.25) running at the same time as the new release. This is exactly what I have. This allows me to use the new version whilst still providing the ScanSnap scanning that I have used for years and Import folders. I have disk space and processor power available so running both versions isn't a big deal for me. If I had to choose one version or the other then I'd be sticking with 6.25 for now. As it is I can explore both worlds.

Bryn26 · October 10, 2020

I agree that it's time to start looking at alternative options to Evernote. The Evernote management is utterly clueless and if they're happy to release a beta release to the public that is objectively worse than the previous version, then there is no reason to hold out confidence and remain with this product.

t8769 · October 17, 2020

There is nothing aggressive or wrong about talking about leaving or discussing alternatives.
I have not seen any demonization, or any uncivil language, certainly not on this page.

Most people here are polite, helpful and genuine.

Talking about a leaving is not a 'strategy' it is a genuine conversation.

They have made good suggestions, and I have seen no personal attacks.
If someone has used has behaved badly, they are certainly the exception. I have not seen this.

There is nothing wrong with honest discussion, and it should be encouraged, not called 'negative'.

mi_cha · October 12, 2020

I`ve just found Nimbus Notes today and I'll give a try. Notion and OneNote do not seem substitutes to me.

The prospect of so many definite changes in Evernote chills me. The Evernote I have been using for more than a decade is gone. I believe premium power users just became redundant to them, they are focusing on other customer categories.

I am not willing to restructure my workflow to fit in Evernote. There are too much crucial features missing in v10.

And abandoning us to an unsupported legacy version is unbearable...

Ben Trigsted · October 27, 2020

I haven't looked at the new version of Evernote because I will not use Evernote without the Import Folder option. I could use OneNote for free in that case, since it doesn't have an import folder option either. But, is there a timeline for when we might see this added, or is it one of the things that will just go away?

PatWestTexas · October 7, 2020

Without the Import Folders and the Outlook App, I am out on any new version. These are critical functions for me and without them, 75% of the reason I love Evernote are gone. Ill be staying with version 6 until these missing critical features are incorporated.

gazumped · October 11, 2020

5 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

If I delay long enough

It might take a while - the real crunch is going to be exactly how fast can Evernote add new (i.e.our old) features now they have their code base re-engineered?

Apparently some old features might not make it - see

And vote! How can they consider not sharing notes by email!! (I'd love to know what other features they're still thinking about too....)

Gearbox0315 · October 12, 2020

What the heck happened to shortcuts. 128 notes displayed by relevance? what makes one note more relevant than another? I have over 5k notes with a Meeting tag. A shortcut that displays them in date created order has been a go to for years. Now it is gone. This is the note from tech: The search sorting is currently not implemented yet. For now, Evernote search provides result by relevance. This feature is on our to-do list and we plan on building them soon.

Help!

Frank WindForce · October 13, 2020

Evernote just forced an update onto my system yesterday.

My initial reaction is that the MS Windows App version has been dumbed down to the web / phone version.

The single most important thing missing is that the ability to simply email a Note to someone seems to be gone . And worse, if you go to Share and click to get a copy of a link, the person you send that to can't access the note to see it. Says no access available even though they are in the shared list on the Notebook and Note. This one change is big enough to me that I'm going shopping. Just not acceptable to remove a core feature like emailing Notes with no warning.

Daniel KT · November 9, 2020

I fully support all the points noted here. Will not add to the same points raised previously. Just bring back ALL the legacy capabilities into the latest version as soon as possible, please.

HeBoIz · October 7, 2020

This issue relates to the brandnew article "What's new in Evernote for Windows 10.0.10 – Evernote Help & Learning" (https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047889234, 2020-10-07)

not quite clear for me is which shortcuts, that may be used in our workflows, are no longer supported or just not implemented yet.

There are quite a lot of keyboard shortcuts listed in the actual article "Keyboard shortcuts in Evernote for Windows (https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209004807), that are listed as "Not available" in the new version:

This is (state of 2020-10-07):

all former global keyboard shorcuts (system-wide when working in any application - provided Evernote is running)
Application-wide keyboard shorcuts
- Jump to notebook - Older versions: Ctrl + Shift + N
- Print Preview - Older versions: Ctrl + Shift + P
- Switch to another user - Older versions: Ctrl + Alt + A
- Show/Hide Note List - Older versions: F11
- Show/Hide Note View - Older versions: Ctrl + F11
- Show/Hide Tags View - Older versions: Ctrl + Shift + T
- Quick Search - Older versions: Ctrl + Q
- Snippet View - Older versions: Ctrl + F5
- Card View - Older versions: Ctrl + F6
- Top List View - Older versions: Ctrl + F7
- Side List View - Older versions: Ctrl + F8
- Thumbnail View - Older versions: Ctrl + F9
- Search notebook - Older versions: Shift + Alt + N
- Search Tags - Older versions: Shift + Alt +N
- Show Search Explanation - Older versions: Ctrl + F10
- Close separate windows / Minimize main window to tray - Older versions: Alt + F4
- Sync - Older versions: F9
- Online Help - Older versions: F1
- Cycle through note list views (Snippet, Card, Top List, Side List, Thumbnail) - Older versions: F5
Note Editor keyboard shorcuts
- Search Notes - Older versions: F6
- Reset Search - Older versions: Ctrl + Shift + A
- Check Spelling - Older versions: F7
- Open in a New Window - Older versions: Ctrl + Enter
- Present - Older versions: Ctrl + Alt + Enter
- Present on Another Screen - Older versions: Ctrl + Shift + Enter
- Tag - Older versions: Ctrl + Alt + T
- Email note - Older versions: Ctrl + Shift + E
- Font - Older versions: Ctrl + D
- Insert Checkbox - Older versions: Ctrl + Shift + C
- Remove Formatting- Older versions: Ctrl + Shift + Space
Note List keyboard shorcuts
- Search Notebooks - Older versions: Alt + F1
- Search Tags - Older versions: Alt + F2
- Search Saved Searches - Older versions: Alt + F3
- Go to the first note in list - Older versions: Home
- Go to the last note in list - Older versions: End
- Open the selected note in a separate window - Older versions: Ctrl + Enter
Navigation menu keyboard shorcuts
- Move to the previous item in the section (notebooks, tags, ...) - Older versions: Up arrow
- Move to the next item in the section (notebooks, tags, ...) - Older versions: Down arrow
- View the list of sub-items under the selected item (if applicable) - Older versions: Right arrow
- Collapse the list of sub-items under the selected item (if applicable) - Older versions: Left arrow
- Delete selected item - Older versions: Delete

notetakeingguy · October 10, 2020

I was a beta test user and expressed my disappointment many times about it. Sorry folks. I am running both versions. What I like about the new version is I can paste from Word better. And the search is better. But I miss the tag organization and the Send a Copy by E-mail. Even though I have 6.25 installed, I can't seem to get the Outlook web clipper to work. But maybe I need to reinstall it.

timnote · October 10, 2020

Missing tabs

mi_cha · October 11, 2020

3 hours ago, Kolmir said:

I'm currently testing OneNote (full v.) -> Editor and sync works better than fine on all my platforms, only maybe some small UX complaints on mobile. There are scan tools and Web-Clipper from MS. I can also protect selected content https://www.groovypost.com/howto/password-encrypt-microsoft-onenote-notebook-section/

Next week I plan to try migration https://www.onenote.com/import-evernote-to-onenote

However, maybe we can do more, for example like all users of EvN will stop paying subscription at once or contact investors or maybe consider class action lawsuit? I'm not a lawyer, but maybe there is a proper way out? Or EvN just gone crazy... and we should abandon the ship ASAP? As long as we can migrate local notes...

I am also a user of MS OneNote (collaborative work with some specific institutions).

As far as I know, ON notebooks are stored on the cloud (OneDrive), notes are not local - just the same problem as EN v.10.

Syncing is realiable, web-clipper for Chrome and the android widget work fine. You're right, the software is well written and stable.

ON looks fancy (lots of color and icons, the design is very nice) but is not conceived to manage thousands of notes. It simply lacks the tools, I don`t mean that ON is technically unable to save thousands of notes.

It works well for small-to-medium databases, but - in my humble opinion - is not a substitute for heavy users of Evernote with large databases.

lisec · October 12, 2020

3 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

I also use Scrivener.

So do I! I mean I *have* it, but haven't used it in a long while. I just use it for screenwriting - it never occurred to me to use it for something else. I'll load it up again and see. I think I downloaded it to replace an old app called MindManager that I used to use to outline my PhD. It was like a flow chart program. I miss that one.

JaneneF · October 12, 2020

This - - I can't narrow a search inside a specific Notebook or Notebook Stack. -- alone is nearly a deal breaker for me.

Other things:

Also, I can print multiple notes at one time or at least I can't figure out how to do it.

I can't sort or filter by notebook.

MarkW725 · October 17, 2020

Why didn't Evernote finish building this new version before releasing it?

I have managed to go back to an older version to get the full functionality back. I will also look at alternatives.

MrIllustrator · October 17, 2020

4 hours ago, Kolmir said:

You can listen to the recent interview with EvN's CEO. He officially confessed, that they don't plan anything. This mean they produce software in a pretty chaotic and amateur way... which results in obvious side-effects we experience today with v10. This is unfortunate.

It looks like they ignore achievements of generations of software developers i.e. methods like for example Agile, Scrum, LSD or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_development_life_cycle

This sounds like the best explanation so far of what’s going on by far thank you.

kingnixon · October 19, 2020

On 10/17/2020 at 2:54 AM, GrumpyMonkey said:

The customer support staff (Jeffrey) are people too, and I don’t think we should be demonizing them for doing their job. The same is true for the developers. This is their livelihood, and I’m sure they are doing their best to develop a quality product, so threatening legal action or trying to organize a mass cancelation of subscriptions (their income) is quite unfair.

I think we ought to voice our opinions (I have in many places in this forum), even (especially?) if they are at odds with Evernote’s, but we should try our best to do it in a mutually respectful manner. This is an app we all care about, right? We want to see it succeed and be better.

I agree that there are problems eith the current release (enumerated elsewhere), but I think arguing the merits of our position is a better strategy than threats to leave or using the *Evernote* forums to promote alternatives.

Let’s try and keep it positive, and give Evernote something they can work with

This is extremely condescending. Nobody is having a political negotiation strategy session here. Evernote's (and its developers') livelihood is developing and maintaining a product with certain uses and functions, and they've chosen to downgrade their product with a half-baked unfinished update, after ignoring all the beta testers "arguing the merits of their position". If they reduce functionality, the people who used those functions *should* cancel their subscriptions. Purchasing a service is not charity, it's commerce. Calling it unfair for people to not want their money going to a company that no longer does what they pay for is absurd.

Why in the world would anyone who doesn't work there care about the app? People care about what they use it for, what they are able to do with it. I don't care about the app itself anymore than I care about a browser or word processor; I use the one that best meets my needs. If Evernote no longer does, people will leave. Doing something in a mutually respectful manner requires respect from both sides, and I'm not seeing that from Evernote.

zolee · October 21, 2020

You don't. Their help sais you turn it of in system. But in my system settings it is turned off. My OS is english language but I write in another. So, all my notes are red. If every other program has posibility to turn of spellcheck, evernote had it before, why in the world not now???
Plus other features that are missing. This is totaly crazy. Don't understand them why they are breaking things that were working.
Unistaled v10 and went back to legacy version.

Did they decide to ruin the company? What's the bussines plan with letting app like this out?

Since I am sure legacy version will not get anymore bug fixes and will most likely in future loose sync possibility with database and v10 is simply out of question, its time to look for alternatives and move on. Really loved it.

HeBoIz · October 21, 2020

11 hours ago, t8769 said:

How do you turn off spellcheck?

Did you read the posts above?

So far there seems to be no way to turn off or to adjust the (Chromium-Electron-) spellcheck in this version. May be this will change or be added in the coming updates, may be included with the pronounced reintegration of preferences.

lisec · October 22, 2020

1 hour ago, avevers said:

Native sync (optional) coming too, @lisec
- https://obsidian.md/pricing

That's good. I'm taking a look at obsidian now. Very interesting. Not the simplest thing in the world, though, I mean in terms of how to deal with filetypes they don't support.

MrIllustrator · October 22, 2020

I think the point is that with some people it still works if you are not connected to the internet but others do need a connection to search or access their notes, it's not consistent and for me the most obvious problem is it's glacial in speed at all times, I can still tap on a favourite and it takes anywhere between 1 and 8 seconds (record 11 seconds) for it to display the associated notes. We were not talking about thousands of notes here, it had to find 23, the same 23 it had to find yesterday but had not cashed and completely forgotten about them, apparently over night. I deliberately left Evernote running so it could do whatever house keeping it needed to do in the background in case that helped but it's been running nearly a week now and it's not getting any faster.

This very slow speed alone makes it unusable for me, add to this the long list of long term features simply missing and it's not the Evernote I came to rely on. It's a completely different product all together with a green elephant pasted on the logo, a pale comparison to the classic (working) version.

For me the 35 missing keyboard shortcuts are quite incredible, I didn't use them all but we're talking basic ones here, like CMD-J, they say it's coming back but to not have put this in in the first place when they knew how important it was is staggering.

Didn't I hear that Evernote is written in Java Script running in a framework called Election, Haven't all mac users for ever complained about the performance of Java Script on the mac for years or is it my imagination? The performance of the app would confirm this wouldn't it?

I have classic Evernote 7.1.4 on my 2011 iMan and it runs every request instantly, opens quickly, no delays. I have Evernote 10.1.7 on my brand new 2020 iMac and it's so slow, opening searching, clicking on notebooks, favourites etc it's infuriating to use.

I am hoping that enough things get fixed for me to be able to use the new version but it's taken 2 years to get to this position and even powder-users, (not me) are in such a small minority according to Ian Small (less than 2% use tags ! for instance) that I don't think they will ever be listened to.

Tone Engel · October 22, 2020

Glad to see I'm not the only one annoyed by the long list of frequently used (by me) features that have disappeared in version 10.

In addition to those I had time to find in what's already been posted, here are a few more:

Insert date/time used to allow the format to be specified. It is no longer useful as I need to use it. Keyboard shortcut was also changed.
Indent and un-indent keyboard shortcuts are gone. Guessing MANY other shortcuts are gone.
Preferences being reduced to one flag "Save Data at Log Out" is just an enormous slap in the face of anyone whose workflow has benefited from previously available options.

I understand it can be challenging in software development to leverage new technologies without altering past user experiences, but for a product like Evernote, failure to commit to strictly adding functionality is a deal breaker to my long term acceptance of the product.

MrIllustrator · October 22, 2020

There are 35 keyboard shortcuts missing from version 10 for mac, some of which were essential to my workflow and many others.

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/208313358-Keyboard-shortcuts-in-Evernote-for-Mac

17 minutes ago, Tone Engel said:

Indent and un-indent keyboard shortcuts are gone. Guessing MANY other shortcuts are gone.

dcon · October 22, 2020

6 hours ago, Vigilante said:

except that Evernote desktop is a web app. It is not.

Welllll.... v10 is an Electron app. So it may be running locally, but it's basically the same code as in the web browser version.

richtpt · October 22, 2020

Count me in as someone who isn't happy with this update. For me it's a giant step backwards. I understand the company wanting to rewrite the application in something that makes it easier to maintain and add functionality in the future. I work with databases and have written database applications before and completely understand how good it feels to get rid of bad, old, hard to maintain legacy code in favor of new shiny stuff. What they should have done is release this version as beta and asked people to test it (I'm sure they did but it obviously wasn't ready to come out of beta). There are too many missing features and things that are very different. I have used the Send Feedback option several times to give them constructive feedback, not "you're a bunch of idiots" - that doesn't help. The overall look and feel is more like version 2, the previous version looked and felt much more professional.

Another thing that is driving me nuts is the line spacing. It's about double what it was. I make my font as small as I can read so I can fit as much as possible in the window, but with V10 I can't get that much in the window. With regard to the fonts, I wish they would follow standard font sizes. The default 16 font is NOT 16 point font in any other Windows application. I could probably get used to the fonts they have chosen to give us but I want the ability to change the default font size because I prefer 14.

I keep all my work on a project in a bullet list under that days date. Often I'll press shift-enter to get to a new line but stay on the same bullet. I have my font size set to 14, but after I press shift-enter the font goes back to 16. Same with inserting text between two paragraphs where everything is 14 - the new text goes back to the default. It didn't do this on the previous version.

I just re-installed 6.25 and didn't realize how much better it is. I really hope Evernote is listening to all of this. In my opinion they should go back to 6.25 being the current version and put this version back into beta letting people help them test it, then release it back to everyone when they have added the needed features. I understand they ARE working on adding back a bunch of the missing features, but they shouldn't have been missing from the start. And it's perfectly ok for a company to say, "Sorry, we thought this version was ready but it's obviously not, we goofed. We're going back to the previous version and will let you know when this is ready." That's hard but better than not saying anything and letting long time loyal users get more and more upset.

I do love Evernote and have used it a TON for a long time. I can't imagine NOT using it! Fingers crossed something good happens with Version 10 really soon - be that a major update with all the missing features or a rollback.

DMiddleton · October 22, 2020

1 minute ago, TK0047 said:

Generally speaking, are electron apps slower than native desktop apps that we had been used to before? Generic question to understand the electron apps better and whether I should just prepare myself for slow apps?!

What are the limitations to the electron apps and the advantages?

Generally yes they are slower than native, some are really good such as Microsoft's VS Code, in general they respond slower and take up more RAM on the machine.
It is still a web interface and the display rendering is slower that a native app dealing with the graphics, which is why you may notice changing from note to note is not as snappy as the legacy version etc. They can still access most things on the system with a bit of work and integrate with it pretty well but as a developer myself I much prefer native apps.

The advantage for EN is to have a shared code base so they don't have to maintain multiple platform specific versions, and apparently that will allow them to deploy new features quicker in the future.

Reading some of the feedback on the forums the performance varies widely between users with some having very poor performance and lags, while my own experience is not as bad as that it is noticeably slower that the legacy version.

TK0047 · October 22, 2020

15 minutes ago, DMiddleton said:

Reading some of the feedback on the forums the performance varies widely between users with some having very poor performance and lags, while my own experience is not as bad as that it is noticeably slower that the legacy version.

Mine is painfully slow!!! I have tried it on a remote desktop, local machine (laptop), local desktop at home....and all 3 is below my standards. The lag is beyond noticeable. I can understand it won't be instantaneous but if I am waiting for note the go away after I moved it to a different notebook, that is an issue for me.

My next question then is why is it so different for many users? Is it the number of notes?

And since the legacy app works fast on the same computer, I would conclude that there is an issue here aside from the performance or the capability of the PC.

Coffee First Thing · October 23, 2020

10 hours ago, richtpt said:

I do love Evernote and have used it a TON for a long time. I can't imagine NOT using it! Fingers crossed something good happens with Version 10 really soon - be that a major update with all the missing features or a rollback.

I'm a huge Evernote user and fan, and also hugely disappointed by Evernote 10.0. Its lack of features makes Evernote 10 unusable. (For me, these include no keyboard shortcuts and not being able to move the shortcuts to the top of the app.)

If Evernote renamed version 10 as 10 beta that would go a long way toward inspiring confidence.

jon.r.rose · October 23, 2020

This is incredible.

I can't even delete a note on the Windows app anymore.

Right click and then select "Move to Trash", or perform a key combination of "Ctrl + Backspace". Really Evernote? The "Delete" button on the keyboard wasn't sufficient?

I work in the technical space and Evernote was a Godsend to me, due to some of it's key features like Screen Snips and Import folders. Screen Snips were specifically critical for when I was remoting in to a client's machine and annotating screen shots of issues or report modifications on the spot. Now, that feature, along with a host of others (mentioned at the top of this string) have disappeared.

Noticeable, and meaningful, crucial features which are now missing:

No Screen Snip
No more Import Folder
Unable to "Save As" (which I use to Save to a PDF file for internal and external Knowledge Base articles)
Unable to Email a note

The top two are in red because I use these two features everyday, multiple times a day. The Screen Snip has really given me cause for concern and am now going to try and see about reverting Evernote back to the older version. If I can't do that or if I don't see any positive feedback from the Evernote team regarding re-implementing these features, I have to start planning a migration to another platform (likely One Note).

I loved Evernote and would praise it's capabilities to anyone, but after this downgrade (or premature release), I'm having a hard time convincing myself that this is viable option for me.

CalS · October 23, 2020

2 minutes ago, jon.r.rose said:

Noticeable, and meaningful, crucial features which are now missing:

No Screen Snip

No more Import Folder

Unable to "Save As" (which I use to Save to a PDF file for internal and external Knowledge Base articles)

Unable to Email a note

You can go back to the older version until this gets sorted, hopefully.

AlbinSince2014 · October 30, 2020

On 10/11/2020 at 9:29 AM, mi_cha said:

I gave up trying v.10 and am back to previous v. 6.25.1.9091 (last stable version).

I use Evernote for work, not for leisure.

The poor design and missing features affect my workflow. I just can't afford it.

The whole situation is a true lack of respect. This release is an unfinished project - and a poor one.

I'll stick to the older version for now.

I cannot agree more, plus 1

bigtelco · October 30, 2020

A few days , after 10 years of subscriber ship, I finally gave up and moved my database to Apple Notes (an option for me because I have only Apple devices) What did I learn?

1. It was amazingly easy. I exported my Evernote notebooks, one notebook at a time to ENEX files on my iMac desktop. I then clicked import in Apple Notes and they uploaded almost instantly. I then moved the notes to appropriately named folders in Notes and ... done. Several thousand notes to me a half hour. It then took another 30 minutes for everything to upload to iCloud so that they are accessible on all my devices.

2. Notes is way faster than EN (new version)

3. Search is about equal to EN. OCR works well.

4. The share sheet can be used to save web pages into Notes. It isn’t as sophisticated as the web clipper but it is very functional.

5. Attachments are easily annotated from my iPad with Apple Pencil.

6. Although there are no font choices, actual note formatting is better and faster than the “updated” Evernote.

7. Tables are viewable and full featured on MacOS and iOS devices! (EN fooled me. I wasted an hour trying to get Tables to function on my iPad before discovering in the Forums that-- this is just a button-- we didn't actually build the functionality yet... )

8. There is full support for handwriting and new shapes tools. You can write and annotate within the app.

9. It requires an extra step but you can create reliable links to your notes that can be pasted into other notes, your task manager or elsewhere.

In short, if you are an Apple ecosystem person, there is no reason to continue the suffering. A clean interface, a zero price and great features await.

This may seem disloyal, but face it folks, this has been an asymmetric dysfunctional relationship for a long time:

—5 years and virtually no new features?

—Remember awaiting the “new” Evernote and discovering that the only new feature was a redesign of the Mads the Elephant logo?

—Remember having prices jacked up without any new features?

— Remember getting “chat” instead of user-requested requested features?

—Remember the removal of useful capabilities like Evernote Clearly?

—Remember all of the promised enhancements to security? A decade on and you still can’t password-protect a note! Remember the policy document that indicated that developers might be reading our notes? They later retracted this, but what assurance do we really have?

— Remember multiple versions of the virtually unusable Penultimate?

--There is still no way of exporting your note into another file format (docx, markdown, etc.)

-There are still no compelling outlining options : toggle outlines, multi-column outlines, tables (outside the desktop), etc. Heck in iOS you don't even have the ability to easily move items around in an outline using drag-and-drop or a keyboard shortcut.

And now, after promising a new improved Evernote, they have launched a feature-disabled Mac app, and fundamentally broken Windows and iOS apps.

The comparative advantage and utility of Evernote is that IS multi-platform and that you can use multiple devices together: scan with an iPhone, handwriting and annotating on an iPad, type on a desktop.... If half of the devices no longer work properly, Evernote no longer has the utility that drew users like me in the first place. A few examples:

--They sold us Evernote branded Fujitsu ScanSnap devices— now they have removed scanner support with notice to users.

--They released apps that don’t even allow printing???? What????

--Annotation in the iPad app was at first completely unusable, and has only marginally improved.

- Sketch, a promising but lagging feature, was fundamentally broken at launch, requires that the IOS14 Scribble feature be disabled, and has gotten worse due to numerous obvious bugs.

--The iOS apps and the desktop apps overall are now noticeably slower and buggier.

--Note Linking, a reliable feature that kept me coming back to Evernote, has gotten harder to access, buggier, and less reliable.

--I think they are trying to improve tagging, but I don't see any documentation yet on how it is all ultimately supposed to function.

--As these Forum posts indicate, many workflows have been broken and users are left on their own to "explore" to figure out what the new landscape it. In my experience, this might be ok for the release of the new edition of a game, but it is NOT how you train and release mission-critical software to a community whose livelihoods depend on the proper functioning of your software. Can you imagine Microsoft releasing an ALL NEW version of Word with critical features removed, new features added, some buttons that lead to features that don't exist, and no training of the user base, and no real documentation of what has changed?

Thus far, there is no real communication other than marketing spin. There is no documentation of what is supposed to work and what is in development. The features that used to differentiate Evernote have largely been lost or broken. Ian Small is now talking about all the enhancements in the future, but what are they? When? We waited 2 years for this????

While Evernote have taken our money, Apple Notes, Bear, Notion, Notability, Goodnotes, Roam Research and OneNote have been advancing forward rapidly. Evernote meanwhile is remaining pretty much the same or getting worse. Some folks have used Evernote as a filing cabinet, but it has even lost much of its utility--and most of its comparative advantage-- for that function.

After exploring a bit, I’m amazed at how far the rest of the world has advanced. Unfortunately beyond the user community itself, there is simply no compelling reason to stay😢 unless: A. Evernote explains to users what the plans are for the immediate future. B. Evernote acknowledges what is wrong and how they are going to fix it. and C. Evernote commits to some sort of communications plan with its loyal user base.

I'm still watching and hoping, but in the mean time, I'm really enjoying Apple Notes for my daily work. As these problems persist and remain unaddressed, I worry for the financial viability of the Company. The paying users--the ones who depend on critical features and reliability--seem most likely to defect....

TK0047 · October 30, 2020

31 minutes ago, bigtelco said:

After exploring a bit, I’m amazed at how far the rest of the world has advanced. Unfortunately beyond the user community itself, there is simply no compelling reason to stay😢 unless: A. Evernote explains to users what the plans are for the immediate future. B. Evernote acknowledges what is wrong and how they are going to fix it. and C. Evernote commits to some sort of communications plan with its loyal user base.

Good points. After exploring, I was surprised to find some really great products and some with the stuff we have been patiently waiting for.

I really would like to hear A, B and C addressed very soon officially. That would be really awesome.

Eganic · November 3, 2020

The simplify formatting feature doesn't work on Mac instead bringing up a search and replace console. Most annoying!
Also it would be great to have keyboard shortcuts for the headers

Coffee First Thing · November 9, 2020

16 minutes ago, Daniel KT said:

I fully support all the points noted here. Will not add to the same points raised previously. Just bring back ALL the legacy capabilities into the latest version as soon as possible, please.

I wish I could give this post a thousand likes.

Make Evernote better, not weaker.

MrIllustrator · November 28, 2020

3 hours ago, Gale Rhoades said:

I fear we will loose so much information.

We care about your data, the actual users of Evernote classic, but new Evernote have proven by their total lack of feedback to this shocking terrible “upgrade” they don’t care one jot for your or my data. We are just tiny numbers in their bigger picture that count for literally nothing. I feel betrayed and de-valued, stupid of me I suppose to think for one second I was important as one of their long term paying customers.
Their silence is deafening. Version 10 is unusable and they glibly say they will no longer support the classic version any time soon, then what will we do?

dantek · December 2, 2020

New version released for Windows - v10.4 -

No mention of any of the issues mentioned in this thread being looked at. Spellcheck doesn't work and the windows don't even have window names....but hey - new features you didn't need! (sigh..)

Frenx · December 9, 2020

So many features missing from the desktop version, but the one I miss the most is the filter-as-you-type in the search bar, that filtered the note list while typing: it allowed me to refine the search when the desired note did not appear in the list.
Perhaps this is not possible because the database is no longer local?

While Evernote 10 is being improved (I hope it will), I'll be using the legacy version, or maybe moving to Nimbus note.
It's a shame though, I've been using Evernote for 13 years and have always enjoyed it!

Matt S · December 18, 2020

I wanted to say thank you for allowing the previous stable version to be installed the new, because I am completely unable to get anywhere with the new version.

The right-click menu is missing altogether from the notebook stack in the left pane. This means I can't delete a notebook at all. Searching through help, it seems that the context menu is the only way to delete notebooks, so since that menu is now completely non-operational, I had to rely on opening the 'legacy' version to clean up my notebooks.

Also, I used to be able to drag and drop PDF attachments from Outlook emails into a notebook and they would appear as a new note. Since version 10, all I get is 'something went wrong, please try again'. Doesn't matter how many times I try, I get the same error.

So, again, thank you for providing the legacy version and allowing me to run it alongside the new. I'll be relying on this until the above issues are fixed.

Koandco · December 31, 2020

I heard Notion was good! And it's only 48$ per year.

mgrune · January 21, 2021

I don't normally post on forums but I'm really not happy with this new version. I've been using evernote for many years now and have it central to all the things I do in life. I've never considered looking for alternatives until this new update. I installed it thinking that the look was a little different but that it was introcuding new features. Good, I thought. But no, this is the new generation of crappy web apps which have no features, no options and no ability to customise. You're a long way off the mark if you think this app is anything other than a major downgrade to the "legacy app". The utter lack of features is shocking and I just experienced something I've never had before, a note conflict where evernote created a copy of a note after I made changes. That instantly makes me worry. I trust my data to evernote and this flaky app can't handle simple edits???

Either way, Legacy now installed and I'll be exploring other options to migrate my notes in the meanwhile. The reality is the new 10 app is never going to have the functionality of 6 as it's simply not built with that in mind. It's dumbed down by design. Beware evernote, you going down this path will lose you some of your most loyal voices. Never take your most loyal customers for granted.

bigtelco · January 21, 2021

Unfortunately, Evernote seems to think that their system is well-functioning and they are already hard at work on new features like the "homepage." However, two days ago, I attempted to annotate a pdf on my Mac and I couldn't save the annotations--the Save button is grayed out, another 30 minutes wasted. Meanwhile, the iOS apps remain a complete disaster-- and there is no legacy option for these.

The only positive differentiators I can find for Evernote right now are the "Mail In" feature and the Web Clipper. The system is slow, the "new" editor is inferior to Apple Notes, Bear, Notion, and Craft. I.e., just about every alternative I've tried. In iOS, the sketch and table features are apparently not yet fully realized (i.e., they are inferior or simply don't work)

My problem is not that the "new" version doesn't have all of the features of the old one. The problem is that the "new" system is unreliable and doesn't work. There is still a lot of potential here, but if their strategy is to plunge ahead with new releases with new interfaces rather than fixing basic functionality, then this company is doomed. I don't see them offering refunds to customers for wasting vast amounts of their time.

Particularly disconcerting are their statements that "oh, only 5% of users need this feature". However, the vast majority of Evernote users aren't paying. What percentage of paid users are going to leave because of the mess they have created? Those paying customers were waiting patiently FOR YEARS as Evernote management promised improvements. Instead, we now choose between a de-contented and unstable version with "new" features, or a stable "legacy" version with a limited life and no new features. I, and virtually every Premium customer I have corresponded with are already at least halfway out the door.

Of course they cannot tell you which features they will "add back," they didn't plan to add any back. The most amazing thing is how "amazed" they seem to be that their most loyal users are unhappy. This Electron thing is a HUGE strategic blunder-- I don't know that they will ever recover. Native apps will always work better, even if they are harder to program. Evernote's view seems to be that even if the apps are worse, slower and less functional, at least programming them will be easier. In a competitive environment this is losing strategy.

If Craft, Apple Notes, Notion, or Bear implement a decent web clipper and mail in features there will be a stampede out the door. While this won't be an option for many users, I have moved the majority of my work to Apple Notes-- which is--despite missing some of Evernote's legacy features-- amazingly less stressful, more coherent, and everything works like it is supposed to.

MikeTurd · February 3, 2021

I just installed the Everblote lagacy. After using this product for two years. I must say I will start looking for an alternative. Just leave the fkng sofware alone!!!! It was fine. Copying all these notebooks now will take am enormous amount of time. This is just like Adobe killing the photoshop suite by forcing yearly subscriptions...why the hell are you companies so nasty?? I may have to just go to MS Note and live with it!

Mike P · March 9, 2021

11 hours ago, jabaron said:

Legacy EN works pretty well for me -- but V. 10 will not allow for sorting by author, and is slow with an awkward interface for me.

I hope you find something that better meets your needs. I also hope that the ability to sort by a much wider range of fields will be reintroduced. There has been quite a few requests for sorting by tags and notebooks. If you can't find something better and in case you didn't already know you can filter by author using the search syntax. Without knowing your workflow I don't know whether that would help.

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ildar170975 · June 4, 2021

Since last October I have been using the legacy version.

Today for testing purpose I installed the latest version, and so far:

1. Only 5 fonts are available.

2. Sorting of notebooks on the left panel is still inconvenient for me:

- first notebook stacks with Cyrillic names,

- next with English names,

but in the legacy version the order is "first English, then Cyrillic" - and I prefer this order, and cannot change it.

3. The "Options" still not present. This is a new fashion - not letting users to customize anything.

4. Notes are opening significantly slower than in the legacy version.

Well, at least now I can create a notebook inside a notebook stack...

So, after ~8 months the new version is still crappy???

PinkElephant · June 5, 2021

@ildar170975 Maybe read first before you write: The tool to find and use icons is courtesy of MacOS, nothing provided by EN.

Since icons are cross platform (see those available on this forum), I am pretty sure there is something similar for Windows, be it by the OS or one of these tools you can download. Since I use Windows when I have to, and avoid it else, I can’t tell how to exactly.

You asked how you can get icons, you got a polite answer to it.

The adequate reaction is „thank you“, when somebody offers a helping hand. Would be nice to continue with engaged and civilized discussions here in the forum.

CalS · August 27, 2021

4 hours ago, gazumped said:

It's entirely your choice - good luck with your next choice. I'm still with Evernote - allbeit with their Legacy product - happily using the features in the way I've grown used (or resigned) to over these past several years. There's no requirement (yet) to adopt the new version - it's an option not a compulsion. Just sayin'

Same here.

Though for my paperless use case I am in the process of mirroring my notes containing PDFs. This was triggered by the loss of local notebooks. I am copying those notes in synced notebooks now. I would not want to try and make this exodus using V10. The incremental time it would take would be staggering. Not clear how long 6.25.1 will be around, probably a while yet, but still.... Who knows maybe V10 will be fixed by then.

Shane D. · October 7, 2020

@gazumped Yes, you can still use an older version.

Please see this resource:
https://help.evernote.com/hc/articles/360052560314

gazumped · October 7, 2020

Hi @Shane D. - phew. Thanks - had a brief moment there where I thought a bad year was going to get much worse!

When you get time, can someone address my other questions about the new app though please? I can install it and test things out, but you'll save me some time if I know more about what to expect...

HeBoIz · October 7, 2020

Anybody any clue what is meant with listing "ScanSnap Evernote Edition firmware and software" as no longer supported feature?

a) former seperate / special "ScanSnap Evernote Edition firmware and software"
or
b) general "ScanSnap software" (meanwhile updated and replacing the former Evernote Edition)

I wouldn't be delighted to have problems with using my Fujitsu iX500 (non-Evernote Edition ) after updating to Windows-App, Version 10.0.10...

gazumped · October 7, 2020

6 minutes ago, HeBoIz said:

I wouldn't be delighted to have problems with using my Fujitsu iX500 (non-Evernote Edition )

Hmmn. Missed that earlier. Guess if you're saving scans directly to Evernote that might be a problem - although if Evernote can still accept scans from Canon / Epson etc, why would Fujitsu be incompatible. Maybe just means they won't support the older Evernote version...

Dave-in-Decatur · October 7, 2020

1 hour ago, HeBoIz said:

not quite clear for me is which shortcuts, that may be used in our workflows, are no longer supported or just not implemented yet.

Thanks for the well-organized list! I have this same question. Other thoughts:

I note in particular that all global shortcuts are gone. Among other things, this means you can no longer start a new note from outside Evernote!
Also, does the loss of the shortcut to open a note in a new window (Strg + Enter = Ctrl+Enter on English keyboards) mean that it's no longer possible to actually open a note in a separate window?

These are absurdities. Why should having the new editor remove these system-level functions?

HeBoIz · October 7, 2020

24 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Maybe just means they won't support the older Evernote version...

Thats what I guess. I shortly read that support for the former special Evernote Edition has been given up. Newer firmware is just Fujitsu ScanSnap software „pure“ - including options for direct scans to Evernote. This should stay compatible...

ej8899 · October 7, 2020

16 minutes ago, s2sailor said:

@Shane D. can you provide a ballpark time frame for how long the Windows and Mac legacy versions will still be supported?

FYI - for anyone wanting to make sure they keep a copy of the 'legacy' version for re-installation - jump to the forums here and download 6.25.1.9091 - save a copy to your computer/cloud/etc., just in case it disappears from the forums!

HeBoIz · October 7, 2020

3 minutes ago, ej8899 said:

FYI - for anyone wanting to make sure they keep a copy of the 'legacy' version for re-installation - jump to the forums here and download 6.25.1.9091 - save a copy to your computer/cloud/etc., just in case it disappears from the forums!

... and as additional fast-info: As mentioned by Shane the legacy version of the actual/old version Evernote_6.25.2.9198 is to find and to download via the Evernote article "Install an older version of Evernote" on https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314

Dave-in-Decatur · October 7, 2020

6 hours ago, Shane D. said:

@gazumped Yes, you can still use an older version.

Please see this resource:
https://help.evernote.com/hc/articles/360052560314

@Shane D.: First of all, I hope they gave you last week off to get ready for this!

Second, can you please clarify something WRT the "legacy" program = v. 6.25.1.9198: is it possible to download and install the new version alongside an existing v. 6.25 installation? Or does the new version (v. 10, I take it) overwrite/delete an installed v. 6.25, making it necessary to then download and install the "legacy" v. 6.25.1.1998? And in either case, will the legacy version and the new version both access the same on-disk Evernote database, or does the new version create a different database? Full details, please! TIA.

wolfonta · October 7, 2020

Hey all,

Here to report that ScanSnap / IX500 functionality in the new version is not supported.

When scanning into Evernote a new "Imported Notebook" will be created for each document.

This is breaks a critical feature for me / my business so I will be sticking to the Legacy version until then.

Aesthetically it looks beautiful - wish I could hit the delete key to delete notebooks/notes though.

@Dave-in-Decatur I have both the legacy and the new version running side by side right now and it seems fine.

gazumped · October 7, 2020

2 hours ago, PatWestTexas said:

Without the Import Folders and the Outlook App, I am out on any new version. These are critical functions for me and without them, 75% of the reason I love Evernote are gone. Ill be staying with version 6 until these missing critical features are incorporated.

Ouch. I use both too. Hadn't seen that Import Folders were excluded but I use that too. Seems like you can run legacy and new versions side by side from the above, which may be a short(ish) term work-around; also as a subscriber you can still forward emails to your account email address, so the lack of an Outlook Clipper isn't a necessarily a total loss.

HeBoIz · October 8, 2020

1 hour ago, agsteele said:

It is quite possible to have the older version of Evernote (6.25) running at the same time as the new release. This is exactly what I have. This allows me to use the new version whilst still providing the ScanSnap scanning that I have used for years and Import folders. I have disk space and processor power available so running both versions isn't a big deal for me. If I had to choose one version or the other then I'd be sticking with 6.25 for now. As it is I can explore both worlds.

Thank you for this report and advice... (as well regarding the ScanSnap Software) 😉

Dave-in-Decatur · October 8, 2020

@wolfonta and @agsteele, thanks for the info about running both versions side by side. Do you know if they both access the same DB? IAC I presume it would be a bad idea to have the same note open in both versions at the same time.

CalS · October 8, 2020

23 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

IAC I presume it would be a bad idea to have the same note open in both versions at the same time.

Good guess I would say, two clients and all ....

Dave-in-Decatur · October 9, 2020

On 10/7/2020 at 11:03 AM, Shane D. said:

@gazumped Yes, you can still use an older version.

Please see this resource:
https://help.evernote.com/hc/articles/360052560314

@Shane D., I just noticed this casual by-the-way statement in the What's New post: "make sure you are on Windows 10, as the new Evernote app does not support older versions of Windows." Is that true across the board? Not saying it's a bad idea, just relaxing, actually, since it would mean that I can't "upgrade" anyway till I get a new Win10 computer.

Shane D. · October 9, 2020

@Dave-in-Decatur

Yes, we only support the new version of Evernote for Windows 10. If you're on an older version of Windows then the older version of Evernote is the only supported version currently available.

Dave-in-Decatur · October 9, 2020

1 minute ago, Shane D. said:

@Dave-in-Decatur

Yes, we only support the new version of Evernote for Windows 10. If you're on an older version of Windows then the older version of Evernote is the only supported version currently available.

Thanks for the info! That and any other system requirements really need to be at the top of a post somewhere, rather than being buried. Isn't that basic Best Practices?

But yes, relaxing a bit since (please forgive me, nothing personal) this particular failure is literally not an option for me.

ever_coffee · October 9, 2020

I'm enjoying the new version so far, but I was surprised, during install, with the warning that local notebooks were no longer supported. I haven't had many local notebooks in Win10, but I was glad to see that EN came up with a solution for a backup, even it it was an import into a note in the new version. I was seeing the option to "Verify local notebooks" in the tools section on the menu, even after I had concluded the import. I wanted a function that would make it easier to delete those no longer supported (and already imported) local notebooks. EN support told me to delete 'databases' folder. So I did, but I wanted to go further and I totally uninstalled the new version, then proceeded with a complete removal of EN directory and folders, and tried a fresh install once again.

Now, the section regarding 'local notebooks' in 'Tools' is not longer there (which is great, since I've already imported everything that matters and deleted everything), and the new version seems to be very fast and reliable. I particularly liked the possibility to work offline with auto sync when connected, but I miss the sync button (it was kind of a habit to constantly click in the sync button).

I would highly recommend a total removal of old Evernote, prior to installing the new v.10, after you are sure that everything is synced.

All the best,
ever_coffee

RobertJSawyer · October 10, 2020

9 hours ago, Shane D. said:

Yes, we only support the new version of Evernote for Windows 10. If you're on an older version of Windows then the older version of Evernote is the only supported version currently available.

Shane, it'd be nice if your installer checked to see if the user was running Windows 10 BEFORE it blew away the existing Evenote installation. I'm on Windows 7 32-bit, and your installer deleted my entire Evernote installation AND THEN decided it couldn't install Evernote 10 (giving only a cryptic message that no appropriate file-association was set), leaving me with NO EVERNOTE AT ALL. Fortunately, I'd set a Windows restore point before doing the install, but sheesh.

notetakeingguy · October 10, 2020

Wow, sorry this happens to you. Really losing confidence that new CEO can save Evernote.

Brendanefro · October 10, 2020

Oh no! I literally just paid for a year of membership yesterday solely because it's the only notes app I know of with a global "New note" hotkey and now they have removed that feature. What are the odds 😭 Oh well I guess I can just use the old version for now and if they stop supporting it eventually I will just have to end my membership then.

MarcSant · October 10, 2020

It's unbelievable how such a good product can turn into such a bad thing that it induces a customer from years of using the product and the platform to start a process of mass migration of their data to the competition.

How can a company do not make a market research, a survey among its loyal customers about what they expect or not from a new version. To me, if Evernote continues like this, it really died. And there it is to look for alternatives to other products, which maybe don't have all the features of Evernote but at least they don't charge us for what they can't offer, different from Evernote which keeps charging and at the same time has removed crucial functions for me.

Let's go to the list of CRUCIAL functions that have been removed, and that for me disfigure the whole product:

- There is no way to change the color of lateral toolbar from Dark.

- There is no way to put shortcuts list in the top of screen. It will not move anymore

- There are only FIVE Fonts. For me that store computer code in the notes, it is A TERRIBLE choice

- Desktop App is a web based one, and notes are not synchronized anymore. Just turn off your Ethernet adapter and the program will not show notes anymore. The proof is that you are able to show "developer options" that show a web page render in the right side of the screen. Another proof is you can use the old classic version side by side with the new one, so the new version 10 is not using the database files that is stored locally.

- I can't change the Interface Language. I like to use English Interface, since I can have a lot of info in foruns instead to get translated the Brazilian version to English one.

- I can't create a Notebook inside the Notebook stack as I always did. You need to first create the Notebook, then move it to stack

- I can't grab a screen capture anymore

- I can't Paste text directly to Evernote note (CTRL+shitf+V) anymore

- I can't import a folder anymore

- I can't un-stack a Notebook from a stack using right click mouse. I need to drag an drop them.

- I can't narrow a search inside a specific Notebook or Notebook Stack.

Please, if you noted some another missing feature, feel free to contribute to this list.

Dave-in-Decatur · October 10, 2020

These are all important issues. There are now forums related specifically to v. 10 for Windows: https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/720-evernote-for-windows-issues-versions-100-and-above/; https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/731-evernote-for-windows-requests-versions-100-and-above/. Many of these issues are listed and discussed there, so it might be more effective to proceed there.

MarcSant · October 10, 2020

Thank you.

MarcSant · October 10, 2020