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How to edit Webclip Note?


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It is a significant loss of functionality for me too, as I used to Clip & Annotate a lot. I would not say that it renders the Web Clipper useless, but it is certainly not as useful as it used to be. 

Please consider re-enabling this functionality.

 

 

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The problem with “simplify” is that the entire layout gets ruined. In the in older version when editing webslips was possible, the layout remained the same. (more or less). And THAT is what people , like me, would like to have back !

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This change is a significant reduction in functionality.  In the past, when WebClipper would have a bit of trouble clipping a complex page (typically with images) I could simply visit the note, delete the garbled image, and then paste in the correct image.

Now I can't.  Some observations:

  • Before I could simply select text and copy.  Very useful for programming notes where I want to take code from an article and incorporate into a programming language editor.  Now this is multi-step (if it works).
  • The "simplify and make editable" function garbles stuff even worse in the situations where WebClipper has a bit of trouble.

Don't know if you have Medium access but try clipping this using "Article" in WebClipper: https://towardsdatascience.com/neural-networks-are-fundamentally-bayesian-bee9a172fad8  And BTW "Simplified article" screws up a lot of the images from this Medium post so I couldn't use it.

As you scroll down thru the clip when it gets to Evernote, some of the images are wacko - almost like they are magnified and out of focus.  Using "simplify and make editable" makes this way worse - now there are more giant out of focus images, and worse yet, there are a bunch that are tiny clips with spinning circles on them.  Try to copy and you get tiny tiny images.  Useless.

So consider this a request to revert (somehow) to the old functionality.  Or invest some serious work in "simplify and make editable" to fix a lot of bugs.  Perhaps I should try gathering up some of these problems and submit them as issues.

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On 10/9/2020 at 3:02 PM, Mike P said:

You have to "simplify and make editable" which is available from the pop up mini menu when you click on the grey header to the web content.

What I'm expecting is editing without format changed, same feature just as existing one in older version.

Thanks.

 

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This "make editable" feature has been part of the Web client for awhile, and I've found it more useful than the old Windows desktop program in eliminating Web formatting that I don't want. But yes, if you wanted that formatting but just wanted to edit the text, the new way is less desirable.

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Hi! I mostly use Evernote in Windows desktop and although new version 10 is more fancy, not being able to edit webclip (HTML) notes is a major setback for me! I'm evaluating downgrade to previous version and when it's no longer supported I will evaluate other alternatives to Evernote.

Although webclip feature is simply amazing and the best I have ever seen, I regularly need to add some text/remarks in the middle of the webclips. Usually, simplifying the webclip "kills" its formatting, images are lost and the note is nowhere as usefull as before...

If it was possible to export the webclips to allow full editing in another app (for example, Microsoft Word) it could help a lot (maybe I could edit the webclip outside of Evernote and then replace the content with the edited one without losing any formatting).

I once was a paid user hopping that editing capabilities could improve in new versions but unfortunately what I see is just the opposite.

One thing is for sure, I'm not returning to being a paid user if webclip editing is not possible. Please add it back!

Thank you, best regards!

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I would also like to edit a web clip. I used to highlight sections in a clipped page, but now this is only possible together with simplify. But simplifying totally messes up the page and is not an option for me. 

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Just adding another vote to the complaints here ... want to be able to edit a web clip as we could before without destroying the formatting. In particular, I would like to be able to just highlight the sections that made me want to clip the piece in the first place, so when I go back days/weeks/months later, I can zoom in to the key points.

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I use Evernote (Legacy) for just two features that used to be free. One is the nested tags and full page for tag management and the other is this, clipping a web page and then editing it, annotating it, highlighting, adding pictures, all without losing the original formatting. "simplify and make editable" or leaving it in a non-editable, ugly webclip/html-note rectangle defeats the whole purpose of Evernote for me. I never paid for Evernote because I only need those two (removed) free features, not any of the paid ones. I would happily pay for a competitor if I found one that even just did the same html web-clipping editing as Evernote Legacy.

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Editing a web-clip is essential for me as well. In the older-versions that was not any problem and makes Evernote even more functional for me. Not having this is anymore is a great loss of functionality. Can we please have this back again ( in the way it was )

Much appreciated !

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Trying to use the new version without being able to edit or delete parts of a web clipping are so frustrating.   Even simple things like clipping a recipe and wanting to add my own notes are not possible now.  That changes so much of the functionality of what was useful in Evernote before.   Please add this back!! Thanks!

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That's the reason number one, why I was back to the old legacy version.

It seemed that there's some moment we can edit the web clip even in the new version at the very initial, but some tricky way was needed, and they locked up the way.

However, I understand that the func. need huge things to be concerned, but Evernote should  back this func. back!

That's because that feature is one of Evernote's key differences.

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In fact nothing was removed, and editing a web clip is really simple with v10.

First I think it is a good idea to set the web clip to read only, to avoid unwanted changes.

When you want to edit it, open the note, click in the header area where is says „Web Clip“ and now select „Simplify formatting“. In the iOS app there is a little magic wand that does the same.

This converts the Web Clip somehow, and from then on it is editable.

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4 hours ago, Frank Kuypers said:

And THAT is what poeple , like me, would like to have back !

Together with the web circa 2010 where it worked really well? With the increasing complexity of web pages I find that 

 

4 hours ago, Frank Kuypers said:

the layout remained the same. (more or less)

is normally less rather than more.

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Just adding my voice to this request to reverse this dreadful loss of utility. Honestly, what was the Product Owner thinking when they signed off on removing editability of web clips.

The result is that i use Evernote less frequently than before.

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No loss, you can make any web clip editable.

Personally I think it was a clever decision to preserve clipped content in a container „as it is“, and convert it when editing is requested. It makes clipping more robust when there is no editing possible on the original clip.

Editing after conversion worked for me without problems. If you want to preserve the original clip, duplicate the note, and convert only one of the two web clips.

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On 10/9/2020 at 3:02 PM, Mike P said:

You have to "simplify and make editable" which is available from the pop up mini menu when you click on the grey header to the web content.

  1. for most of my 13 years of subscription this was not necessary
  2. both before and after results in a note that looks completely different from the source. again wasnt the case for ~13 years
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8 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

No loss, you can make any web clip editable.

Personally I think it was a clever decision to preserve clipped content in a container „as it is“, and convert it when editing is requested. It makes clipping more robust when there is no editing possible on the original clip.

Editing after conversion worked for me without problems. If you want to preserve the original clip, duplicate the note, and convert only one of the two web clips.

  1. why would anyone want read-only notes by default?
  2. that look completely different to the source?
  3. compared to Evernote first 10 years of life these read-only, stripped-down, duplicated notes not only represent poor UX decisions but raises the question of Evernote's usefulness compared to say OneNote going forward

 

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On 6/6/2021 at 6:00 AM, MickyD said:
  • for most of my 13 years of subscription this was not necessary
  • both before and after results in a note that looks completely different from the source. again wasnt the case for ~13 years

13 years ago web pages were much simpler with basic html and none of the bells and whistles associated with modern web pages. May be the web pages you want to clip are still relatively simple in which case I sympathise. My experience is that the old way of doing things routinely messed up the formatting while the new system is better albeit with the significant disadvange of not being able to even highlight text. 

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On 6/7/2021 at 10:56 AM, Mike P said:

13 years ago web pages were much simpler with basic html and none of the bells and whistles associated with modern web pages. May be the web pages you want to clip are still relatively simple in which case I sympathise. My experience is that the old way of doing things routinely messed up the formatting while the new system is better albeit with the significant disadvange of not being able to even highlight text. 

This post is lacking technical reference and therefore it should be disregarded particularly in its take on HTML, the "old way", and more.

Evernote is a company that probably survived because it kept up with the need for users to save and edit web pages as they are presented --   I am having trouble seeing how to do this properly in today's Evernote.

I hope C-level management will take swift action and seriously ponder the question: who hired the responsible project/product managers?

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If you want it just the old way, install the legacy client.

I am pretty sure your subscription will expire and be renewed before the legacy stuff will stop to work (no inside knowledge…). Formally once you renew, you know what is in the package, no more complaints.

Beside this I totally agree with @Mike P . There is a ton of web editors out there, each one trying to create web sites that look better than the competition. Wordpress alone supports 2 official editors, and there are plenty more 3rd party ones to use. And this is just one CMS.

It is frivolous to expect EN to build ONE editor that is able to modify ALL existing (crooked) HTML code. They have chosen a very clever alternative by first simplifying the code before editing it.

If you want to keep the original and edit it, make a duplicate before you simplify the web clip.

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What do you expect ? An editor that can edit any BS a web designer invents ?

EN took the only way to assure that it’s users will be able to edit web content, no matter from where, no matter with which gimmicks the original page may be loaded.

You can always keep a copy of the original page by creating a note duplicate before simplifying.

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