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Georgi Georgiev

Dark mode - IT'S TIME

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15 hours ago, jefito said:

Please go back and read previous posts by @dcon and o/ or @dconnet for more information.

`@dconnet` was my previous Evernote time (thru Jun 2019).

`@dcon` is me!

:)

 

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It's you!  It's like Clark Kent and those glasses....  😃

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5 hours ago, dcon said:

`@dconnet` was my previous Evernote time (thru Jun 2019).

`@dcon` is me!

:)

Oh I knew that -- it's just that both of you posted things worth reading!

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1 hour ago, jefito said:

Oh I knew that -- it's just that both of you posted things worth reading!

I know you knew that! But some of the newcomers may not have made the connection!

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5 hours ago, jefito said:

Oh I knew that -- it's just that both of you posted things worth reading!

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Just discovered a way to get dark mode for evernote on windows! Use the web version of evernote and in chrome use the extension "Night Eye" ... works great visually. At least on my system it does add a bit of lag loading a note but worth the tradeoff.

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24 minutes ago, Eyrm said:

Just discovered a way to get dark mode for evernote on windows! Use the web version of evernote and in chrome use the extension "Night Eye" ... works great visually. At least on my system it does add a bit of lag loading a note but worth the tradeoff.

Except for the fact that the native Windows application is miles more functional than the web application...

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Adding my third device a windows pc I decided to become paying member. Suddenly discovering evernote hasn't got a dark mode in windows. Seriously reconsidering my membership. This is strange, backwards, and hard to understand for software that feels so forward when used on mac.

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12 hours ago, Ferdinand Forwardius said:

Adding my third device a windows pc I decided to become paying member. Suddenly discovering evernote hasn't got a dark mode in windows. Seriously reconsidering my membership. This is strange, backwards, and hard to understand for software that feels so forward when used on mac.

If you look and read for posts by @dcon and @dconnet (the same person, an ex-Evernote developer) in this topic, you will find out wy it is difficult to implement on native Windows applications.

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On 3/30/2020 at 2:54 AM, Ferdinand Forwardius said:

Adding my third device a windows pc I decided to become paying member. Suddenly discovering evernote hasn't got a dark mode in windows. Seriously reconsidering my membership. This is strange, backwards, and hard to understand for software that feels so forward when used on mac.

speaking to the choir of early-adopter requesters and laggard justifiers of the dark-mode technology adoption life cycle.

this request goes back over five years. surely it doesn't take five years or more to update code for dark mode.

business priorities of bug squashing vs end-user requests.

https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/45681-dark-themedark-mode/page/8/

as long as the users request bug fixes, the requests are prioritized.

What’s in 6.24 GA?
Fixed:

Some users experienced errors when connecting Evernote to Google Drive 
The app would not restart after changing language settings
When clicking on a notebook, the app would not always load the first note in that notebook
The confirmation window when exiting the app was not always visible
“Synchronizing notes” progress bar was not appearing

18 hours ago, jefito said:

If you look and read for posts by @dcon and @dconnet (the same person, an ex-Evernote developer) in this topic, you will find out wy it is difficult to implement on native Windows applications.

who needs to request dark mode on windows when all that is needed is to buy and only use a mac for the purpose of one app;

macs aren't that expensive anyway;

It's in the computer? It's so simple! - Misc - quickmeme

who uses windows anymore; windows is the new big blue.

/sarcasm  ;)

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here are some manual options for the end-user who wants a potential solution instead of a sounding board:

  1. Possible Dark-Mode for Windows SIMPLE Workaround Found
  2. Solution to not having white background for notes

testing in Windows Sandbox to see if it actually works....

it works for the note background. had to make a copy and send a copy of the .exe to C:\ , change the user permissions to full control, run sfk, then paste it back over the original .exe

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I read an old comment written by Evernote's support guy that the "Dark mode feature" for windows is not a priority while now you guys are working for more effective features..

well, UI/UX is the most important in any program or application as we all know, trust me *Dark Mode* is one of the most important feature to any user now days, I'm surprised how wide community you have while you guys are not implementing a lot of UI/UX features and that's why you should be proud actually!

I'm programmer and I can see how hard work you've done already ❤️ and I can imagine the amount of new ideas you get from users and the enthusiasm to implement them 🔥 but you have to keep in mind that all Windows users are waiting for the dark mode 👬👫👭    

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Hi. Please check the other threads. A former Evernote Windows project coder has advised (multiple times) that dark mode is not possible in the current code base.  Work-arounds are detailed elsewhere...

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16 hours ago, mohannad.atmeh@gmail.com said:

I read an old comment written by Evernote's support guy that the "Dark mode feature" for windows is not a priority while now you guys are working for more effective features..

Please link to comment you are referencing. Don't leave us guessing.

Merging this with the longer "dark mode for Windows" request...

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PLEASE enable a dark mode that switches the default background colors for the whole app (window header, menus, notes list, and the notes themselves) to dark gray or black and the default text color to light gray or white (user-selected text colors would of course override, but be adjusted for viewability). People who use the app a lot have been trying to tell you their eyes are bleeding. You've implemented this for Android (THANK YOU!), so you know how to make it work from a practical standpoint. Perhaps it's difficult from a programming standpoint, but PLEASE put the work in to make it happen. Your users' eyes will thank you!

I know there's a popular request out there already to be able to change the background color of just the notes themselves. That request has been floating around for 8 years and has garnered support, but no action. Obviously, if you implement that, any user-selected note color would override the dark gray/black background in that note.

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5 hours ago, dkc said:

I know there's a popular request out there

Merged with (one of) the (many) previous requests. Please see the discussion this far - the short version is: dark mode isn't available in the current code base. Evernote are updating the apps this year. Maybe something will come out of that,  maybe not.

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9 hours ago, dkc said:

I know there's a popular request out there already to be able to change the background color of just the notes themselves. That request has been floating around for 8 years and has garnered support, but no action. Obviously, if you implement that, any user-selected note color would override the dark gray/black background in that note.

Please read posts by @dcon / @dconnet to get a handle on why dark mode is difficult to implement on a Win32 application. Windows is not that same as Android...

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Difficult to implement dark mode?
What i know
this free program?

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On 4/11/2020 at 3:00 AM, rewa said:


this free program?

No it is not a free program. It has a free version, but that version has limits. Many pay for it, like me.

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I don't understand why implementing dark mode takes so much time. It should be added years ago. There are no technical limitations making it exceptionally difficult to do. It can be done and ought to be done.

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2 hours ago, Kynareth said:

I don't understand why implementing dark mode takes so much time. It should be added years ago. There are no technical limitations making it exceptionally difficult to do. It can be done and ought to be done.

Yeah it is pretty sad when even Outlook now supports dark mode. If you are slower than Outlook, you are barely moving.

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... even Outlook ...

One should keep in mind that Outlook is from Microsoft, so they are very close to new OS features.

In case of the EN client for Windows, it is still a 32bit app. These can’t „borrow“ the feature from Win10, which is 64bit. So to get dark mode, EN needs to release the whole app in a completely new, 64 bit version. There would probably nothing be left from today’s client, maybe except the logo.

And yes, this is over due. Getting a dark mode is probably one of the least important issues in a 64bit-Release of the Windows App. I still run a PC, but have shifted most of my activity over to a Mac, and my iPad. Both get dark mode directly from the OS. I think the Windows client will be launched with the new editor, hopefully soon.

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9 hours ago, Kynareth said:

I don't understand why implementing dark mode takes so much time. It should be added years ago. There are no technical limitations making it exceptionally difficult to do. It can be done and ought to be done.

Honestly, do tell. Please supply technical details, and be sure to do so in light of the fact that a former Evernote developer who worked on the Windows code, and did the estimates for his bosses said that it would be a lengthy process. His posts are right here in this thread, look for posts by @dcon and @dconnet.

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20 hours ago, Kynareth said:

There are no technical limitations making it exceptionally difficult to do.

Uh. Yes there are. See my posts from (I'm guessing) a year ago.

18 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

So to get dark mode, EN needs to release the whole app in a completely new, 64 bit version.

Dark mode has nothing to do with 32v64 bits. Windows Dark Mode is implemented in WindowsRT. We're (darn it - they're) a Win32 app (that refers to the API we're built on, not 32v64 bits - microsoft has such wonderful (confusing) names for some things). The application could be converted to 64 bits far easier - I'm guessing that wouldn't take more than a week, assuming all the 3rd party libraries in use are available. (no, don't suggest doing that - because now you've increased the installer complexity by more than 2. you've increased the testing effort by 2x. And frankly, it's not that memory constrained except in a couple particular places (import/export of enex files for instance).)

Supporting dark mode means completely (and I mean completely) rewriting the entire UI layer. Either in another technology (WinRT) or by completely customizing all the standard controls currently in use. (For instance, I tried to do the standard list control - after a solid week of work it was nowhere close - I'm sure it can be done, but at that time I had other bugs that were far more critical.)

Finally, there is a complete rewrite in progress. See the Beta thread.

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3 hours ago, dcon said:

We're (darn it - they're) a Win32 app (that refers to the API we're built on, not 32v64 bits - microsoft has such wonderful (confusing) names for some things). The application could be converted to 64 bits far easier - I'm guessing that wouldn't take more than a week, assuming all the 3rd party libraries in use are available. (no, don't suggest doing that - because now you've increased the installer complexity by more than 2. you've increased the testing effort by 2x. And frankly, it's not that memory constrained except in a couple particular places (import/export of enex files for instance).)

Where I work, we've supported both 32- and 64-bit versions for some time.  But this year, we'll be dropping the 32-bit version finally. Doesn't make much sense any for us to keep it -- we do GIS, and mapping data can be really large/dense (e.g. billions of Lidar points), so we often need as much memory and processor as we can get. Easier for the installer person, for the testers, and for us devs, too. So hooray (for us)!

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Just went through the conversion when switching to Catalina on my Mac.

Yes, some stuff is not running any longer. But no, nothing that could not be replaced or was just a left over from the old days.

Future, here we come !

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On 4/25/2020 at 1:12 PM, PinkElephant said:

Future, here we come !

Guess my old Lenovo X61 isn't the future... Yes, that's a 32bit piece of hardware - still running Win7 (I tried to update it to Win10 at one point. Failed miserably. So it makes a good test machine) The only other 32bit "machines" I have are a couple Win-XP VMs. Not really sure why I haven't deleted those...

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Plus one. Brand new user...... Really? Your customers have been asking for Dark Mode for years and you can't make it happen. I am trying Premium for a month or two but at hour two I am thinking maybe not. Dark Mode is  a must have.

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20 hours ago, daniel@xelectrix.com said:

I am thinking maybe not. Dark Mode is  a must have.

If your sole measure of whether a note app is fit for purpose or not is that it has a dark mode,  Evernote may not be the app you're looking for...

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It is just sad that many Evernote competitors have been able to get dark mode. I love Evernote, which is why I want them to keep up in this area.

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So after 2 years dark mode is possible in everything except Windows? That's a crock of S%&^

I've been paying for it for years but I'll be cancelling my sub today to find a windows alternative from a company that actually value Windows users. This is such a basic feature in 2020. If the code base can't support it, then change the code base.

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On 5/17/2020 at 6:38 AM, mohannad.atmeh@gmail.com said:

Please 3 years while we are waiting the dark mode!
time to switch program?
Please email me when the dark mode is released to re-use Evernote

Use Tusk, an unofficial open source client for Evernote. It looks like it's built on electronjs (basically chrome engine) so it's a bit laggier, but has dark theme and looks modern. But the latest build has problems with themes and the developer hasn't responded yet, so get an older version and that'd suit you. :)

 

 

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I'm seeing comments about this from over 3 years ago. This is clearly something that is wanted by the community. Why hasn't it been implemented yet? One article says that they don't even have a timeline for Windows/Web dark mode because they're "focusing on performance improvements and feature parity" before they're going to bother adding a dark mode for the rest of us. That was from 2018!!! If you're actually "focused on feature parity" then you would have added a dark mode when all of the other platforms got it. You instead make useless updates that either ruin the program, or no one needs when you could be doing something helpful like including PC users in the dark mode feature. I quite literally do not understand why this basic feature has been excluded from this program and has continued to be ignored for so long. It's about time this happens.

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Annoying consequence of Dark Mode being available on some systems and not others: I have Dark Mode on one Mac running 10.14 (Mojave) but then my other Mac (with 10.13) doesn't have it, so notes with multiple colours are a nightmare because some colours don't stand out on white, others don't on black. If we could simply change the colour of the note background, that would solve it, at least it's a crude workaround if a full Dark Mode can't be implemented on all systems. Thanks.

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On 5/18/2020 at 10:36 PM, NatashaP said:

I quite literally do not understand why this basic feature has been excluded from this program and has continued to be ignored for so long. It's about time this happens.

Hi. If you read the thread,  there's some background information from the software engineer responsible for this part of the app to get you up to date.

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There are excuses, but not good reasons. Many companies have have made the change, with software just as complex. Having worked in development for 30 years I can tell you that while yes, it is not easy, that there is no excuse for not having it done by now. I know several want to defend Evernote, for some reason, but the fact is they are falling behind.

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I loved EN but stopped using it several years ago just because I didn't like looking at all the green. I'm more of a pastel blue or purple person, or even grey or beige. Green everywhere, especially on white, just made me not want to look at the app.  Even the forums are green!

Every couple of years I check this forum to see if there have been any changes to the UI to make things more appealing to more people's eyes, and I'm always disappointed. You guys clearly have a talented dev and QA team, and the app is great. But when people keep not wanting to use an app because of the way it looks (whether it's the green or the light/dark mode or anything else), regardless of how great the features are, it's impossible to tell how many customers you miss out on.

I switched to another app years ago even though the other app had (and probably still has) fewer features. I switched to it because I like how it looks. I like opening it. It's eye candy to my brain, and for that reason alone I use it even when the company takes out features. Every few years when I open EN to see if it has changed any, I think "Nope, still that same green" and I close it and make a mental note to check again a few years later.

If people don't want to use the app solely because of the way it looks, regardless of whether it's the color scheme, font, etc., then for those people it won't matter how much dev effort you put into adding more bells and whistles.

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1 hour ago, Someone said:

If people don't want to use the app solely because of the way it looks

That's entirely their privilege and choice. I've avoided apps because the UI is unattractive. The problem with providing flexibility is: it has to work and (theoretically) look the same in multiple operating systems on a wide variety of screen sizes.  The cost of implementing this would not be inconsiderable - and there's no obvious return for Evernote;  would it drive new customers?  Or just annoy existing users who see the app getting bloated with more and more option choices...

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Hey Evernote team, I've been using app for years now. Would be amazing to have this dark mode feature be fully integrated in the Windows desktop app! I know it might be complicated but will be very much appreciated on my end and I'm sure many others. The app is so amazing already, I know you can pull it off. I believe in you! 🙏

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On 5/24/2020 at 6:26 AM, jasveersin said:

Hey Evernote team, I've been using app for years now. Would be amazing to have this dark mode feature be fully integrated in the Windows desktop app! I know it might be complicated but will be very much appreciated on my end and I'm sure many others. The app is so amazing already, I know you can pull it off. I believe in you! 🙏

Seriously? Please read the previous 3 pages of debate about this...

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4 hours ago, gazumped said:

Seriously? Please read the previous 3 pages of debate about this...

He simply stated that he wanted it as well. It is something that needs to happen and is quite possible.

I mean this is a "Feature Request" forum and that is what you are supposed to do, to help prioritize requests.

 

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16 hours ago, Clintre said:

that is what you are supposed to do, to help prioritize requests

I'm not an Evernote employee. This is a Forum mainly supported by user volunteers, including me.  My comments,  relevant or otherwise, are strictly my own.

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Why are you guys holding out on Dark Mode for Windows? Is it really that difficult?

You are seriously the LAST app I have that does not have Dark Mode.

Time to move into the 21st century.

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On 6/6/2020 at 12:07 AM, ptaylor999 said:

Why are you guys holding out on Dark Mode for Windows? Is it really that difficult?

Merged with the existing l-o-n-g discussion on this...  please see comments above.

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Here to request dark mode for Windows as well!    I'm surprised and disappointed that Evernote doesn't support it as of yet...

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I dont like Onenote but this blaring white screen is ridiculous. Sucks cause i like the layout of evernote better

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19 hours ago, scmgames2 said:

I dont like Onenote but this blaring white screen is ridiculous. Sucks cause i like the layout of evernote better

You're posting in an Evernote Windows thread. And - 

How to enable dark mode in Evernote

To enable the dark theme in Evernote on your iOS 12 device:

- Open Evernote.
- Tap the Account tab at the far right of the navigation toolbar.
- Find Dark Theme in the menu, then toggle the switch. It should be green when the dark theme is enabled.

Note: Toggle the dark theme setting off to disable it.

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Yes this is VERY frustrating.  I found a workaround which is to run Bluestacks, an Android OS emulator for windows.  This is the only way I can think to do it currently, and obviously it's not as intuitive (and also doesn't allow for text encryption), but it sorta gets the job done. 

 

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Just wanted to add my vote for getting this feature into the windows client.  I just subscribed to premium and didn't even consider that this wouldn't be able to do dark mode or some kind of background adjustment to make daily use more tolerable for the eyes.  Like others it would seem, I am a bit disappointed and not sure it is feasible to use it for daily work.  Thank you for considering this request!

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