F3 needs to map to find next occurrence in search

[abdu 26]

It customary in Windows apps that F3 finds the next occurrence of a searched word. It does not work in Evernote. It's ctrl-G. I don't know why they choose the letter G. The letter does not exist in 'search' or 'next' and therefore it's not easy to remember. Plus there doesn't seem a way to reassign the keyboard shortcut. I don't want to use the global shortcuts because they hijack shortcuts for any app.
 

[jefito 5,588]

1 hour ago, abdu said:

I don't want to use the global shortcuts because they hijack shortcuts for any app.

But you can use AutoHotKey to do this, local to the Evernote app. It's free...

[abdu 26]

6 hours ago, jefito said:

But you can use AutoHotKey to do this, local to the Evernote app. It's free...

I think I will remember to use ctrl-G. A lot simpler.

[Dave-in-Decatur 2,922]

On 3/13/2020 at 2:15 PM, abdu said:

It customary in Windows apps that F3 finds the next occurrence of a searched word.

Well ... that works in Notepad and Wordpad, but not in MS Word (at least not in Word 2010; I'm not up to date). It works in some other programs, but not in all. So Evernote's choice to use F3 for something else (set focus to the tag field of the active note) is not unreasonable. Using Ctrl+G to go to the next instance of a search term is, though--I'm with you on that.

[abdu 26]

27 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Well ... that works in Notepad and Wordpad, but not in MS Word (at least not in Word 2010; I'm not up to date). It works in some other programs, but not in all. So Evernote's choice to use F3 for something else (set focus to the tag field of the active note) is not unreasonable. Using Ctrl+G to go to the next instance of a search term is, though--I'm with you on that.

As a good user experience practice and when developing a new app, one starts by assigning common keyboard shortcuts to the actions that are common to many users in common apps. For example, in Chrome and Firefox and probably other browsers, F3 is used for going to the next search occurrence.  Browsers are heavily used every day. Of course not every app is following this standard. Maybe some app developers are not familiar with this concept and create their own confusing shortcuts. As for MS Word, it's a very old app and appeared first in 1983 so probably before common shortcuts were adopted.

How many Evernote users use the focus on the tag field vs  doing a search? I bet search is a lot more common. I never use the tag feature myself. So it makes sense to assign F3 to search and the tag focus to some other shortcut. F3 is also easier to hit than ctrl-g. 'Tag' even has the letter 'g'.
Anyway, good apps allow users to assign their own shortcuts. Evernote should add this feature.

[dcon 166]

F3 is already in use. As is almost every key combination! As I remember, there's well over 100 different accelerators. (With a note in focus, F3 jumps you up to the tags and lets you start adding a tag)

[abdu 26]

58 minutes ago, dcon said:

F3 is already in use. As is almost every key combination! As I remember, there's well over 100 different accelerators. (With a note in focus, F3 jumps you up to the tags and lets you start adding a tag)

Yes we know it's in use. The whole discussion here is about it being oddly mapped and we can't change it.

[dcon 166]

4 minutes ago, abdu said:

and we can't change it.

You could open the EXE in Visual Studio (as a resource) and modify the resource table...

But, no, the ability to allow the user to remap accelerators was never done. It's not the simplest thing - I know, I implemented something like that in my little hobby program. With very limited developer resources, that was a conversation I never even heard come up during my 6 years there.

(And, no, I don't know the history behind the mapping - that was done long before I started there)

[CalS 5,134]

On 3/13/2020 at 11:15 AM, abdu said:

It customary in Windows apps that F3 finds the next occurrence of a searched word. It does not work in Evernote. It's ctrl-G.

Tidbit.  If focus is in the Ctrl+F find window, then Enter will find the next occurrence,.

[Dave-in-Decatur 2,922]

 

On 3/14/2020 at 5:48 PM, abdu said:

How many Evernote users use the focus on the tag field vs  doing a search? I bet search is a lot more common. I never use the tag feature myself.

Just on this point, the answer, I'm sure the answer is that millions of users want to focus on the tag field. I don't use tags much, but your practice and mine is not at all normative. I'll probably eventually make more use of tags, and then I imagine good old F3 will become my friend. And Enter is always there (at least as easy as F3) to go to the next found occurrence.

[CalS 5,134]

On 3/14/2020 at 2:48 PM, abdu said:

How many Evernote users use the focus on the tag field vs  doing a search?

I seldom find (Ctrl+F) within a note.  I use F3 often to apply tags.  If I do find within a note I use enter to go to the next instance.  Does not make it right, just a data point to your query. 

[jefito 5,588]

5 hours ago, abdu said:

Yes we know it's in use. The whole discussion here is about it being oddly mapped and we can't change it.

In the time it's taken for you discuss it here, you could have gotten it working with AutoHotKey. And someone here would have been happy to help if you had any difficulty... *shrug*

I'm not saying that it's not a reasonable request, but the likelihood of it changing soon is probably pretty low, and this would save any mental friction over using Ctrl+G.

[dcon 166]

8 minutes ago, jefito said:

the likelihood of it changing soon is probably pretty low

My personal opinion: "the likelihood of it ever changing is beyond low". I could be wrong... I have no idea what the new beta can support - I stay(ed) as far away from javascript was I can(could)!

[abdu 26]

27 minutes ago, jefito said:

In the time it's taken for you discuss it here, you could have gotten it working with AutoHotKey. And someone here would have been happy to help if you had any difficulty... *shrug*

I'm not saying that it's not a reasonable request, but the likelihood of it changing soon is probably pretty low, and this would save any mental friction over using Ctrl+G.

I already replied to you and told you that it makes more sense to try to remember to use ctrl-f than installing a tool, learning it just so I can use F3. Frankly it's an absurd idea to install a whole app just to use a key in another app when that app already has a shortcut key. And don't worry about my time.