EN v8.1.0 - Insert horizontal line now inserts at bottom of note

[Carl-L-ND 56]

Android 7.1.1

Evernote v 8.1.0

re: insert horizontal line function

Along with the issue of taking a minute or more for notes to display for viewing or editing, I have now discovered that this editing function in the Android app no longer works as it once did.

It used to always insert the horizontal line at the blinking cursor.  Now is always places it at the bottom of the note.  Works fine in the desktop Windows app.

Another negative for EN ver 8.1.0

This is a key editing function for me as I use the horizontal line extensively to break up a note into smaller sub-sections, usually with a date stamp in them.  When I'm researching an issue and adding updates as I resolve the problem or a product progresses from beta mode to final form I keep all the updates in one note on the issue/product.  Ditto when using EN for client management and keeping track of interactions.

BTW... that is another function Evernote should have on that menu bar - a date insertion tool preferably in the form factor of yyyy-mm-dd-hhmmss.   I currently use a work around app but it is clumsy.

Makes it easy to search for all notes or note updates from a specific day or month where you have time stamped your note.

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[gazumped 11,661]

On 6/22/2019 at 9:27 PM, Carl-L-ND said:

Makes it easy to search for all notes or note updates from a specific day or month where you have time stamped your note.

Hi.  Evernote already includes a search feature for created date and updated date which might help - https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/208313828-How-to-use-Evernote-s-advanced-search-syntax

[jefito 5,589]

On 6/22/2019 at 4:27 PM, Carl-L-ND said:

It used to always insert the horizontal line at the blinking cursor.  Now is always places it at the bottom of the note.  Works fine in the desktop Windows app.

Confirmed. I see that, too.

[Carl-L-ND 56]

I have now updated to 8.1.1.

That fixed the delay to view the note but the insert horizontal line function remains broken.

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[Carl-L-ND 56]

On 6/24/2019 at 9:20 AM, gazumped said:

Hi.  Evernote already includes a search feature for created date and updated date which might help - https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/208313828-How-to-use-Evernote-s-advanced-search-syntax

I use that fabulous search function to search for a character string - the text of my date stamp yyyy-mm-dd-hhmmss  (ex. 2019-06-30-090600).  Searching on the creation date or last update is of no value because the text I'm looking for is from a date in between those two end points.

I'm using Evernote in the same fashion as the old old recipe card contact management system sales reps used for clients 20 years ago.  All comments (sub-notes?) and activity for a particular client over many years is in one note with multiple, often daily, additions of comments on requests or issues.  Each sub note having a horizontal line above and below it and a date stamp plus the name of the person being dealt with.

For example:  I want to go back and review my notes from a day during a recent business trip.  It becomes a simple matter to pull up all additions from a particular day by searching on the date stamp.

 

[Dave-in-Decatur 3,954]

I can confirm the horizontal line issue that started in v. 8.10 continues in v. 8.11. It happens most often for me in a complex note that already contains at least one horizontal line. How on earth does junk like this get past beta?

[jefito 5,589]

3 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

I can confirm the horizontal line issue that started in v. 8.10 continues in v. 8.11. It happens most often for me in a complex note that already contains at least one horizontal line. How on earth does junk like this get past beta?

Sometimes a release gets pushed out earlier that is desired because it contains a fix for a far more serious problem. I'm not saying that this is the case here, but the 8.11 release does appear to fix a major performance slowdown, something that would almost certainly affect more users than a problem with horizontal rules, annoying though it is. Hopefully they'll move on to fix that sooner rather than later.

[Carl-L-ND 56]

1 hour ago, AndreasM said:

Really???

What has a horizontal line to do with performance slowdown????

Both were issues within the 8.10.0 version of Evernote.  Was the horizontal line bug the sole cause of the performance slowdown? Obviously not as 8.1.1 fixed the delay in notes being displayed but not the horizontal line bug.

I am concerned that your interpretation of previous posts in this thread may be causing tremendous anxiety for you.  Know what I mean ??? ????

😉😉

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[jefito 5,589]

6 hours ago, Carl-L-ND said:

Was the horizontal line bug the sole cause of the performance slowdown? Obviously not as 8.1.1 fixed the delay in notes being displayed but not the horizontal line bug.

[I know you're replying to someone else]

Just to be clear, I never meant to imply that they were related, just coincident in the same 8.10 releases. Given the choice of having one or the other fixed, I'd choose having performance back up to speed first. Hopefully they get to the other one shortly.

6 hours ago, Carl-L-ND said:

I am concerned that your interpretation of previous posts in this thread may be causing tremendous anxiety for you.  Know what I mean ??? ????

Ah yeah. Forum "ignore" functionality can be your friend...

[Dave-in-Decatur 3,954]

19 hours ago, jefito said:

Sometimes a release gets pushed out earlier that is desired because it contains a fix for a far more serious problem. I'm not saying that this is the case here, but the 8.11 release does appear to fix a major performance slowdown, something that would almost certainly affect more users than a problem with horizontal rules, annoying though it is. Hopefully they'll move on to fix that sooner rather than later.

Good point, Jeff. I'm a bit out of shape, having been, you know, living life for a couple of months rather than monitoring these forums.  

[jefito 5,589]

20 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Good point, Jeff. I'm a bit out of shape, having been, you know, living life for a couple of months rather than monitoring these forums.  

I do that every once in awhile, for no real reason that I can come up with,  but I always seem to drag my butt (and my 2 cents) back in again eventually...

[Carl-L-ND 56]

LOL  if they had not fixed the performance issue first I would not have had to worry about the horizontal line.  It was that bad, rendered Evernote mobile pretty much useless for me as a tool to make a note while with my clients.

The first couple of times I dropped notes into Keep and then copied them over later.  After that I dug my notepad and a pen out of my technical kit and kept it with me.  Old school but it works offline. 😉 😄

[Carl-L-ND 56]

New update today (v8.1.2) - insert line still not fixed.

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[gazumped 11,661]

35 minutes ago, Carl-L-ND said:

New update today (v8.1.2) - insert line still not fixed.

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Always best to post in the release thread... 

EDIT:  but please don't cross-post.  I get confused...

[Dave-in-Decatur 3,954]

On 8/28/2019 at 2:58 PM, Carl-L-ND said:

New update today (v8.1.2) - insert line still not fixed.

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Finding the same thing in v. 8.12 (and we've mentioned it in the release thread too). In case it may be useful for others experiencing this, here's my workaround: I tap on the icon to insert the line, go to the end of the note where the line is inserted, type "foo" so that I have something to select, select "foo" and the line above it, cut, and paste where I actually want the line to be. And then delete "foo."

[gazumped 11,661]

FWIW - 'foo' (or any text) + the line works in Windows desktop too,  while just selecting the line and trying anything other than delete does not.  Nice.

[Carl-L-ND 56]

FWIW.... it has nothing to do with the Android version or hardware if my experience is definitive.

New phone... Samsung Galaxy S10+ and Android 9, fresh install, and the line still inserts at the bottom of the note.

Now to see what happens with the locked note issue.

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[apmcintyre 0]

This line insertion at the bottom of the note bug seems to have crept back in! Very annoying 😡

V8.12.5 on Android 9 on Moto G6 Plus

[Carl-L-ND 56]

v8.13 is now installed on my Android phone.  This function is working as it should.

Samsung Galaxy S10+ with Android 10.

Is it fixed on your phone?

 

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[Dave-in-Decatur 3,954]

Thanks for the alert, Carl! I just installed v. 8.13, and unfortunately it did not fix the problem for me. At any rate, I tried adding a horizontal line near the top of my long note recording Android app updates, and as usual it plopped the line in at the end of the note.  That note has a lot of other horizontal dividers, but I don't know whether that's a factor or not.

[Carl-L-ND 56]

I did the same Dave.  Tested in a note with several horizontal lines, a note where I had put in  a placeholder to insert a line at a later time, and a new note.

What version of Android are you using?

 

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[Dave-in-Decatur 3,954]

Android 9, on a Samsung Note8.

[jefito 5,589]

Appears to still be broken, Android 10, Pixel 3a

[Carl-L-ND 56]

Here we are a few days later and went to use it and it did NOT work - inserting the line at the bottom of the note.

Then I realized this latest note was one I had created within the past month on my Windows PC.  Earlier I had tested it on some older notes, possible originally created on my phone more than a year or two ago.

So I found a note created on my phone in the first year of use with minimal formatting and tested it.  It worked as it should. - SUCCESS

Found another from January 2019 created on my phone, and it worked as well. - SUCCESS.

So now I'm into notes with a mix of formatting and previous horizontal lines inserted.

 

A note created in 2016 on my PC and never updated - SUCCESS.

Note created on my PC in 2019-08-26 - FAILED.

Note created in 2013 and updated on 2019-04-03 on my PC - FAILED.

Note created on my PC 2018-12-04 and never updated - SUCCESS.

 

I think you can see where I'm going with this.  I'm speculating that notes UPDATED on the Windows PC app after a certain date have been corrupted somehow.

 

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[jefito 5,589]

8 hours ago, Carl-L-ND said:

I think you can see where I'm going with this.  I'm speculating that notes UPDATED on the Windows PC app after a certain date have been corrupted somehow.

Sounds like you have a good set of test cases, anyways. Not sure if it's a case of corruption or the Android editor not understanding a particular format convention used in the Windows client (or possibly vice-versa). The format must be validated against the Evernote DTD when transferring around the Evernote world, as far as I know (otherwise they couldn't be displayed), so they may be valid Evernote notes, but that doesn't mean that the various clients understand them in the same way. At a guess, that's the thrust of the current Evernote efforts to get every client on the same footing. .

Anyways, you should be able to check formatting for the different cases by exporting them to .enex format on your Windows device and doing some spelunking to see what might be different among the cases. Hopefully they're short notes...

[Dave-in-Decatur 3,954]

I updated to the current version, 8.13.1, and tested the horizontal lines in my long note tracking Android app updates. It worked correctly!  Then I tried it on another note that also has a number of such lines. It went in at the bottom!  So I tried it in another such note, and it worked correctly.  Tried another note, and it went to the bottom. 

I haven't taken the time to track the history of these notes, so I can't confirm or refute @Carl-L-ND's hypothesis. IAC, it's hard to see how formatting could be the issue. It's not that the line is formatted wrongly, it's that it goes at the end of the note instead of the cursor position. Sometimes. But sometimes it just works. Clearly there's some underlying code telling the program to put a line somewhere other than the cursor position, but only a horizontal line, nothing else. Why this code is only found, or only activated, in some notes is the mystery.

Annnywaay ... I've kind of given up on this until the major upgrade of the Android editor that is in the works, based on the Behind the Scenes video.