Evernote for Windows 6.5 Beta 2 Released

[Chantal Leonard 213]

Today we're releasing version 6.5 Beta 2 - you can download it here. We're excited to announce two new features.

• Shared view: can now quickly browse all notes you've received via Work Chat from the "Shared" section in the left panel.

 

• On demand sync: an option if you want note content to be downloaded only when you see the note in the note list. This is ideal for users with many thousands of notes who want to save some disk space. You can enable this by checking the "Enable on demand sync" option under Tools>Options>Synchronization. If you do not check this option, Evernote will download all the notes content in advance. 

 

In addition we've fixed many bugs between Beta 1 & Beta 2. We continue to work on stability and fixed 4 crashes and addressed a few localization issues. Let us know what you think about the above capabilities and if you spot any issues. 

Thanks,

Chantal and the rest of the Windows team! 

Evernote for Windows 6.5 Beta Notes

New:

• Easily browse notes and notebooks you've received via Work Chat from the "Shared" section in the left panel.
• Choose to only download recently and frequently used notes using on demand sync by checking the "Enable on demand sync" option under Tools>Options>Synchronization.

Improved:

• Improved handling of large resources on 32-bit systems.

Fixed:

• An intermittent error syncing when connecting to a business account for the first time.
• Issues with the printing of notes with tables.

[Wilkster 1]

Using 6.5.3 Beta 2 there are a couple bugs/issues I am seeing on three different Windows 10 boxes:

1. When saving an attached file from a note to the local disk  I am not prompted to overwrite an existing file. It just blindly overwrites an existing file (using Save As dialog...) This started happening in Beta 1. In prior version it would ask to overwrite first.

2. Instant Sync doesn't seem to be working very "instantly" like it was in prior versions (even though it is enabled). Seems like it is only syncing on the interval set in Synchronize Automatically settings.

Cheers

[eafpres 111]

I have been running the latest beta: 6.6.3.4452 (304452) Prerelease for a while now, and it is not any better.  I was excited because the release notes said they made some improvements for 32 bit systems, which sounded like they were attacking the issue, but I still get a fair amount of not responding, mainly due to disk I/O max out, but sometimes just not responding.  Seems similar to before; if I'm not in EN (BTW--I'm Windows 10 on Lenovo laptop) for a while, and jump in and edit something, then it works for a bit then suddenly locks up.  Also seems still sensitive to copy/paste and highight/delete.

[EdH 1,670]

9 minutes ago, eafpres said:

I have been running the latest beta: 6.6.3.4452 (304452) Prerelease for a while now, and it is not any better.  I was excited because the release notes said they made some improvements for 32 bit systems, which sounded like they were attacking the issue, but I still get a fair amount of not responding, mainly due to disk I/O max out, but sometimes just not responding.  Seems similar to before; if I'm not in EN (BTW--I'm Windows 10 on Lenovo laptop) for a while, and jump in and edit something, then it works for a bit then suddenly locks up.  Also seems still sensitive to copy/paste and highight/delete.

Have you considered using the On Demand sync? It sync's all note headers, but only the body when you select it. My database went from over 8GB to under 1GB and it is infintely more responsive. Not a single lock up like you describe since doing this. I've been fighting this for 4-5 years!

You'll need to log off, delete your local DB copy, log in, set the setting and let it sync headers. 30min or less over regular internet connection since it won't sync note bodies.

[kvitekp 294]

4 hours ago, Addis Geordie said:

Previously when I entered a character into a tag search Windows EN (as web EN still does) would bring up all tags wherever the character appeared in the tag name.

Now it only brings up tags where the character is at the start of the tag name.

 

Please open Tools/Options and select Navigation section in the left column, then uncheck "[X] Match tags by prefix" in the "Tags related options" section.

[gazumped 10,328]

There's always new things to learn...

[eafpres 111]

Question with regard to expected behavior of 6.5.4.4720 with regard to syncing notes.

From earlier comments I thought that the applicaiton (Windows) will sync notes in the current note list view as a priority.  However, what I'm seeing is that, say, I'm doing a search in a notebook and it results in 6 notes.  I click the first one and it says "loading..." then the note appears shortly.  That is more or less as expected.  However, after viewing the 1st note for a minute or so, I click the next one, and it says "loading..."  This continues even after 10 minutes.  My expectation was that the remainder of the list which I am viewing would be synced by the time I click on them.

So I would just like to understand if thiis is expected, or am I observing an issue?

As always, thanks for the support.

[eafpres 111]

On 4/3/2017 at 0:55 PM, EdH said:

Agreed. It is a hacked workaround I wish I didn't need on my Windows PC. My Mac works fine and even if On Demand Sync comes to Mac, I won't be enabling it there given current good performance.

I wanted to post an update.  I have reverted back to *NOT* on-demand sync.  The reason for me is the behavior where notes that were synced locally are being removed from the local dB, so when I access them later, I have to wait through "loading".  My use model is I clip and store tons of information on various topics, including a lot of PDFs but other things just as note content.  I constantly search and review notes in the search results.  There isn't much of a predictable pattern, so I'm seeing often the open circles on content previously available.  The performance hit there was too much for me.

Having said that, the issues I had before with extreme sensitivity to RAM utilization seem to have been abated.  I have no idea why.  Perhpas the issue will return once my dB is fully populated again.

Bottom line, on-demand sync for new stuff was good, but pruning the dB is not good.  I realize there are issues in the Evernote dB setup for Windows.  I really appreciate the efforts to improve, but this one doesn't work for me.

[CalS 5,103]

2 hours ago, Wilkster said:

. Instant Sync doesn't seem to be working very "instantly" like it was in prior versions (even though it is enabled). Seems like it is only syncing on the interval set in Synchronize Automatically settings.

I can confirm this, instant sync does not appear to working in 6.5.3.  I wasn't paying that much attention during 6.5.1 so I don't know if it happened then or with this release.  Added 3 z's to a note 2 minutes ago and it still has not synced.

[eafpres 111]

Good morning!  I found a bug today.  Searches within a notebook returning delted notes  BTW, I like the feature showing the deleted status and restore button.  But I don't think the search shown should be retrieving them.  There are two in this search; the one at the bottom which is from another notebook

[GiacomoLaw 134]

7 hours ago, Chantal Leonard said:

Easily browse notes and notebooks you've received via Work Chat from the "Shared" section in the left panel.

This is awesome! If the work chat is deleted, can I still access the notes? 

Thanks for the awesome work!

[jefito 5,586]

On 2/25/2017 at 2:28 PM, kvitekp said:

They belong to different sections, one specifies max number notes in the search results preview in the Quick Search window and the other one in the Assisted Search view.

Got it; thanks. I'd suggest adding "Quick Search" and "Assisted Search" to the respective prompts just to be a little clearer.

[eafpres 111]

1 hour ago, kvitekp said:

Looks like "created via email to Evernote" is common for those notes. Do you use some proprietary script or publically available service like CraigsList to send those emails?

I use several methods.  The main ones are: IFTTT (if this then that), Zapier (like IFTTT but more robust), forward from gmail by filter (rules), Google alerts using my Evernote email, and registering my Evernote email on various sites that send email newsletters.

For these particular ones, the first two (Nvidia, and Cypress) are from Google Alerts (you can see that in the note title)

The remaining 10 are all direct emails from various sites (all 10 are from different sites)

At any given time I have from 20ish to 500ish notes in my default notebook that 99% come from these sorts of sources.  These 12 are the only ones showing any issues.  My guess is that it is a legacy issue caused somewhere updating versions.

I suggest I delete them on web, see if that clears the sync error, then monitor to see if it happens again.  Does that sound OK?

[gustavgi 304]

On ‎2017‎-‎03‎-‎13 at 5:08 PM, kvitekp said:

Done. Thank you for suggesting!

Speaking of size adaptability. Is is possible to make the preview "tooltip" box adapt to the longest name in the preview list instead of the current adaptability to either the length of the source name or the name of the first note in the preview list? This means that notes in the preview with longer note names are cut of if longer than the first two.

As the preview list sort the notes based on your current sort order, it is not possible to circumvent the issue if you are switching between different sorting orders.

 

[eafpres 111]

Reporting a bug.  It has been around for a while, just getting around to reporting it.  EN 6.5.4.4720 on Windows 10 lenovo Y50 laptop.  The deleted notes should not reappear.  Note that this is a search, and it is scoped to one notebook, so once they are on the trash, they should not appear in this search.  I believe the same thing happens without a search, but I'm reporting it as I found it.

 

[EdH 1,670]

On 3/27/2017 at 1:24 PM, EdH said:

I had On Demand Sync enabled in the previous beta and just saw that it was disabled after (3 days after ) installing beta 2. Please make that preference persistent across installs.

Also, a few comments:

1. Love the new hollow circle to that shows the note has not been sync'd down beyond the header. 
2. Love that non-downloaded new notes show the note size
3. However, if you were on beta 1 and had undownloaded notes, those still show as zero bytes. Will that be cleaned up without forcing me to wipe my database and redownload?

[s2sailor 1,394]

9 hours ago, phils said:

I think the key is to first remember that Evernote is putting an increased focus on Evernote Business, and then note this part of Austin's comment:

I think the biggest point is to improve the on-boarding experience for an Evernote Business (EB) user.  Imagine you're a new employee in a 100-person company using EB which has 150,000 notes in their EB account.  Without this new feature, it's going to take a long time for your Evernote client to populate with all of those notes.  If you just get the note metadata downloaded, you can be up and running productively on Evernote much faster, and your initial experience with the product will be more positive than if you have to sit and wait for a long time before you can use it.

 

I saw the post about increased focus on EN Business and still didn't put it together.  Improved on-boarding makes sense.  Increased focus on Business also explains the additional development effort on Work Chat.  EN is not shy about yanking features and I was holding out hope that would be one of them ... I guess not.

[EdH 1,670]

Bug in the On Demand Sync feature.

1. Put your laptop to sleep
2. have a reminder fire when the laptop is asleep for a note that is sync'd down.
3. wake laptop at a Starbucks or other place where you have to "log in" to the internet on a browser.
4. Click the reminder popup toast to open the note.
5. Log in to the web site so the internet is active

the note will not sync down. If you do steps 4 and 5 in reverse, the popup toast will vanish.

I went back to the main EN UI and forced a sync, but that didn't cause it to load my note, and neither did an F9 in the note itself.

I closed the note and then went and found it. Before selecting on it and opening it, I noticed that the size was not 0 bytes, so maybe the note had loaded and the bug is the open note window in step #4 above isn't refreshing itself to show it has data.

[EdH 1,670]

Idea for On Demand Sync and cloud only notes.

Having 0 bytes shown is misleading. I would personally prefer to know how big a note is regardless of whether or not it is downloaded. It may impact my desire to open it and sometimes even let me know if it is the right note to open. For example, I know a 400kb note is not the right note if I am looking for an image attachment, but if they all say 0bytes, then that isn't helping.

Instead, can you make use of the sync column? right now it is

1. blank - sync'd and no changes pending
2. dot - changes locally that need to be sync'd up.

Add a 3rd. A cloud or something showing the note only exists in the cloud right now. And maybe get rid of the dot in point 2 and show a cloud with sync arrows in it. Or a white cloud for cloud only, green cloud for sync pending, or something. (Please do not select two shades of gray for the clouds though...) 

[kvitekp 294]

4 hours ago, gustavgi said:

I know I have asked for this before, but is it possible to make the Ctrl+Q window maximum width match the maximum number of letters allowed for a tag name, since the box is already size adaptable

 

Done. Thank you for suggesting!

[kvitekp 294]

@EdH Very good idea! I'll see what can be done.

[EdH 1,670]

There is a big in the note editor when pasting characters from the Character Map in Windows. I want to use the arrows (which are way at the bottom as U+2190 through U+2199.

Evernote INSISTS on putting these in different rows. Apps like Word and OneNote though treat them as normal characters.

[kvitekp 294]

4 hours ago, EdH said:

Me since 2012. 

Demand sync seems to have fixed for me

 

 

There is actually something else you may want to try if your database grows again: registry setting HKCU/Software/Evernote/Evernote/LargeResourceThreshold specifies the size of resources in megabytes that will be stored outside of the main database. This setting is normally set to 0 unless Evernote is running on a 32-bit system with low memory, however, you can set it manually if you want to keep your main database file small.

[eafpres 111]

My bad on the incorrect term. What I have is not release or prerelease. Nonetheless Evernote is working hard on some real improvements and I applaud them. I know there are plenty of complainers about support; for me they are helpful and more so if you are respectful and understanding!  Evernote is my workflow and as an independent consultant my workflow is my livelihood. 

[kvitekp 294]

34 minutes ago, EdH said:

However, if you were on beta 1 and had undownloaded notes, those still show as zero bytes. Will that be cleaned up without forcing me to wipe my database and redownload?

They won't be fixed automatically, sorry. Here's what you can do to fix them all:

• Click All Notes on the toolbar (or select Notebooks in the left panel) to get all notes into the note list
• Switch to Table View and sort note list by Sync column
• Select notes with the hollow circle mark (Shift+Click selection works)
• Cltr+Click Help menu item and choose "Fix Selected Notes"

[ej8899 174]

2 hours ago, eafpres said:

I use several methods.  The main ones are: IFTTT (if this then that), Zapier (like IFTTT but more robust), forward from gmail by filter (rules), Google alerts using my Evernote email, and registering my Evernote email on various sites that send email newsletters.

For these particular ones, the first two (Nvidia, and Cypress) are from Google Alerts (you can see that in the note title)

The remaining 10 are all direct emails from various sites (all 10 are from different sites)

At any given time I have from 20ish to 500ish notes in my default notebook that 99% come from these sorts of sources.  These 12 are the only ones showing any issues.  My guess is that it is a legacy issue caused somewhere updating versions.

I suggest I delete them on web, see if that clears the sync error, then monitor to see if it happens again.  Does that sound OK?

I missed parts of the thread, but are these notes in your trash and the same machine isn't syncing?  Delete them "permanently" from the trash if so.  I had a sync issue when I was using folder imports and a couple of text documents were way too big.  Deleting didn't help, but permanent delete from the trash notebook solved it.  Appologies if you've already done that, I didn't read all the messages about this problem.

[EdH 1,670]

5 hours ago, kvitekp said:

There is actually something else you may want to try if your database grows again: registry setting HKCU/Software/Evernote/Evernote/LargeResourceThreshold specifies the size of resources in megabytes that will be stored outside of the main database. This setting is normally set to 0 unless Evernote is running on a 32-bit system with low memory, however, you can set it manually if you want to keep your main database file small.

I don't understand what the setting does. I have gobs and gobs of RAM and hard drive space. What should I set it at?

 

[jefito 5,586]

Dunno whether this has been reported or not, but the Options dialog, Search tab, has a double entry for "Maximum number of notes in preview tooltip", only shown when Show advanced options is checked.

[EdH 1,670]

45 minutes ago, kvitekp said:

They won't be fixed automatically, sorry. Here's what you can do to fix them all:

• Click All Notes on the toolbar (or select Notebooks in the left panel) to get all notes into the note list
• Switch to Table View and sort note list by Sync column
• Select notes with the hollow circle mark (Shift+Click selection works)
• Cltr+Click Help menu item and choose "Fix Selected Notes"

I don't have "Fix Selected Notes." I can "Fix Current Note" which only fixes the note with focus, or "I can fix all notes." SHould I do the latter, or wait for b3 which has the "Fix Selected Notes" feature? 

[EdH 1,670]

If I could just reiterate for those searching with Demand Sync enabled, please give us some visual indicator that:

• The search is still happening - it happens in 2 stages
  • local search - lightening fast - searches all note subjects, tags, and locally stored note bodies
  • cloud search - to search through the rest of my note bodies not locally stored. - not lightening fast. Not even super fast by today's standards, however, it would be totally tolerable if there was an indicator that it was still searching. The moving dots from left to right seems to be the latest fad, but w/e.
• The search isn't complete - this can be very dangerous
  • if the PC is offline, or Evernote's servers are not responding for whatever reason (weekly maint, etc), then the search only returns:
    • notes that meet the search via the subject line
    • notes that meet the search via the tags
    • notes that meet the search via the other header info (modified date for example)
    • notes that meet the search via the note body if locally stored.
  • Note bodies that are not locally stored are obviously not searched, but the search results give you no indication that happened.

[GiacomoLaw 134]

On 10/02/2017 at 9:57 PM, DTLow said:

If only I had a Windows device to play with  

And there I am wishing I had a Mac 

[kvitekp 294]

23 minutes ago, EdH said:

I don't have "Fix Selected Notes." I can "Fix Current Note" which only fixes the note with focus, or "I can fix all notes." SHould I do the latter, or wait for b3 which has the "Fix Selected Notes" feature? 

 

My bad, this change did not make it to the release build  

Please try fixing a single note and see if it will download content and resources instead of just fixing note size and if not, run the "fix all notes command".

[EdH 1,670]

We need a VISUAL indicator that the search isn't complete if someone has the on demand sync option.

I typed in a relatively simple query:

Quote

tag:powerquery try

and instantly got back one result, and that was it, which I knew was wrong. After a few seconds (and probably a few seconds too quickly) tried a few other searches and gave up, finding what I needed on my phone.

I then tried again on my PC and sure enough, when I left it alone, all the hits eventually came down. So it was obviously searching the cloud through the remainder of my notes, which is fine, but there was no visual indication this was happening. I can see this taking longer for slow connections, or much larger data sets than mine.

Needs something, like dots zooming across the screen, a moving magnifying glass, a hula dancer telling me about low mortgage rates, etc.

[EdH 1,670]

Can we get this client to stop resizing images I have annotated?

1. Clip screenshot
2. resize by dragging handle in lower right corner.
3. annotate image
4. image back to 100%
5. drag back to preferred size
6. 2 days later, annotate some more
7. image back to 100%
8. scream

[kvitekp 294]

14 hours ago, EdH said:

Sounds good. Is that a user setting? So I could set it to 1 month, or 6 months?

Yup, 1 day granularity.

[CalS 5,103]

4 hours ago, eafpres said:

So I would just like to understand if thiis is expected, or am I observing an issue?

I opted in for on demand sync on my backup laptop and rebuilt my free account to test it out.  I see the same behavior as you.  Notes are only downloaded as they are accessed.  

I do remember in the early days of the release some language from EN relative to intelligent, my term, downloading occurring without access, not sure what the rules were supposed to be.  Appears not at this point though.

[EdH 1,670]

1 hour ago, kvitekp said:

My bad, this change did not make it to the release build  

Please try fixing a single note and see if it will download content and resources instead of just fixing note size and if not, run the "fix all notes command".

Cannot fix a single note because when I select it to fix it, it downloads and corrects the 0byte column, thus self-fixing.

I can wait until b3. Just glad there is a path forward vs starting over.

[CalS 5,103]

16 minutes ago, EdH said:

Needs something, like dots zooming across the screen, a moving magnifying glass, a hula dancer telling me about low mortgage rates, etc.

Hopefully optional, particularly the mortgage rates.  

I thought I would do a test, me not using demand sync.  I did a search for tag:statement try and got 233 results right after I finished typing try (I have the 50 ms lag set for search delay).  I have 3777 notes with the tag statement virtually all of them PDFs.  Of those 519 are > 1MB in size.  

I know I haven't been beleaguered by the performance issues that you have, Ed so may not be a good comparison.  But still, if demand sync adds lag to searches it would be a good thing to know.  Could be something to put on the minus side of the ledger with how to backup.

[gazumped 10,328]

On 02/03/2017 at 7:32 PM, scruziel said:

6.4 disabled my ability to print pictures on one page as I could before. Will 6.5 fix this?

Hi.  How were you printing on one page?  I haven't noticed any difference in the way that Evernote treats images.

[eafpres 111]

 

44 minutes ago, ej8899 said:

I missed parts of the thread, but are these notes in your trash and the same machine isn't syncing?  Delete them "permanently" from the trash if so.  I had a sync issue when I was using folder imports and a couple of text documents were way too big.  Deleting didn't help, but permanent delete from the trash notebook solved it.  Appologies if you've already done that, I didn't read all the messages about this problem.

If it isn't resolved by deleting in web (which would, potentially, re-align the two systems), I'll try your suggestion.  For me,everything is working fine; new things are syncing, it is just these 12 notes.

[gazumped 10,328]

13 hours ago, pepr said:

I can't customize my note toolbar, thus, i want to drag "reminder" but there is no location where it let me put the icon...

Try dropping the icon very close to the " i " on the menu bar.  There's a very narrow window in which to drop new icons.

[EdH 1,670]

On 2/9/2017 at 9:30 PM, Chantal Leonard said:

On demand sync: an option if you want note content to be downloaded only when you see the note in the note list. This is ideal for users with many thousands of notes who want to save some disk space. You can enable this by checking the "Enable on demand sync" option under Tools>Options>Synchronization. If you do not check this option, Evernote will download all the notes content in advance. 

Any plans to make this work more like iOS where you can pick which notebooks are downloaded and which are not? That way there is no danger getting on a plane or in a car with no signal and not having notes available without having to select EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM in a notebook you may be working on?

[kvitekp 294]

2 hours ago, EdH said:

I don't understand what the setting does. I have gobs and gobs of RAM and hard drive space. What should I set it at?

If you set  HKCU/Software/Evernote/Evernote/LargeResourceThreshold to 1, all resources larger than 1MB will be stored in a subfolder named <your_database_name>.exb.attachments. Your main database file will become smaller and it will take less time to vacuum it. This should prevent those unresponsive application states.

[EdH 1,670]

49 minutes ago, kvitekp said:

If you set  HKCU/Software/Evernote/Evernote/LargeResourceThreshold to 1, all resources larger than 1MB will be stored in a subfolder named <your_database_name>.exb.attachments. Your main database file will become smaller and it will take less time to vacuum it. This should prevent those unresponsive application states.

Ahhh.... that is kind of how the Mac does it, except it puts note text as a separate file too.

I might try that.

[EdH 1,670]

1 hour ago, csihilling said:

Hopefully optional

It would only be necessary with on demand sync. With my full database sync'd locally, 1 of 4 things happened for me:

1. nearly Instant results
2. The UI would lock up and become unresponsive until it found whatever it was looking for, so you knew it wasn't done
3. The UI would lock up and become unresponsive until it found whatever it was looking for, so you knew it wasn't done
4. The UI would lock up and become unresponsive until it found whatever it was looking for, so you knew it wasn't done

 

[eafpres 111]

I wanted to provide an update to my user experience with 6.5.4.4720

I am seeing occasional "Not Responding".  However, they are brief.  I interpret this as the dev team is making smart tradeoffis in syncing etc.  On-demand sync definitely helps, I think.

I had reported previously that when RAM utilization exceeded 60% that EN would grind to a halt, hang, etc.  This appears to no longer be the case.  A result is that my system is more stable on the whole.  This is a great thing for me.  I have one test I plan to run and will update again.  I have noted in the past that my lenovo suffers in part from a mediocre hard drive, which has some un-intelligent firmware that causes performance issues.  This seemed to exacerbate the EN issues.  As part of trying to improve this, I acquried a sotware called Diskeeper.  There is an option in that software to dynamically use RAM for caching beyond what would occur normally.  The idea behind Diskeeper is to more intelligently manage read/write behavior to improve system performance.  Unfortunately, when the caching was engaged, it took RAM utilization way up, and EN would hang.  With this latest version, I will try again and report back.

Happy Friday!

[eafpres 111]

 

6 hours ago, EdH said:

If I could just reiterate for those searching with Demand Sync enabled, please give us some visual indicator that:

• The search is still happening - it happens in 2 stages
  • local search - lightening fast - searches all note subjects, tags, and locally stored note bodies
  • cloud search - to search through the rest of my note bodies not locally stored. - not lightening fast. Not even super fast by today's standards, however, it would be totally tolerable if there was an indicator that it was still searching. The moving dots from left to right seems to be the latest fad, but w/e.
• The search isn't complete - this can be very dangerous
  • if the PC is offline, or Evernote's servers are not responding for whatever reason (weekly maint, etc), then the search only returns:
    • notes that meet the search via the subject line
    • notes that meet the search via the tags
    • notes that meet the search via the other header info (modified date for example)
    • notes that meet the search via the note body if locally stored.
  • Note bodies that are not locally stored are obviously not searched, but the search results give you no indication that happened.

This is problematic to me if a full description of what is happening.  

For my main use model, I can see notes I'm trying to search (they are new) and if they are synced (the circle thing).  But I also often search existing content.  Going back to the other thread about the upcoming feature to delete local content that isn't used recently, this could blow up my business if I miss things I should find in search that have "expired".

This could be especially problematic for notes I have sent directly into notebooks (instead of the default, which I use as an "inbox").  I route notes based on topic/content and expect they will be in search results in the future, even if I have never read them before.

I think I can work around this by more or less negating the benefits of on-demand sync, by ensuring that new stuff is synced, then contorolling settings to ensure nothing ever expires.  The problem would remain for directly filed notes, so I'm concerned about that.

Anyone care to straighten me out?

[JohnLongney 83]

Anybody else pleased with the latest beta? Me, I am delighted.  

When it comes to using my 10 "Win10 baby the on demand sync option is the solution.  Well done, Evernote staff!  

Now, once you get around to fixing the web part of Evernote  ?

 

[EdH 1,670]

I had On Demand Sync enabled in the previous beta and just saw that it was disabled after (3 days after ) installing beta 2. Please make that preference persistent across installs.

[EdH 1,670]

Circled things are not synced. Only header. Dots are pending a local change to be synced back to server. Blanks are fully synced. 

Search does everything synced or not but only if online and the cloud search of the circles is slower to respond. 5-15 seconds perhaps but no indication that the search is still working after local results returned. 

[lisec 282]

18 hours ago, kvitekp said:

search engine was updated so that if it detects that the current search scope contains partially synced notes, it will automatically start server side search (the one that is  used by mobile and thin clients) and when it returns split second later, the results of the server-side search will be merged into the search result displayed in the note list, which in turn will cause found notes to be downloaded if, of course, they happen to fit into the note list view, thus closing the loop.

 

Ah, this must be what I am seeing in my bug report - the search for a phrase works briefly and then a split second later the results expand to include all notes that include the words in the phrase (rather than the phrase as it is within the quotation marks). Happens when the 'enable on demand sync' enabled or not. I'll add this info to my open ticket.

[jefito 5,586]

2 hours ago, EdH said:

Any plans to make this work more like iOS where you can pick which notebooks are downloaded and which are not? That way there is no danger getting on a plane or in a car with no signal and not having notes available without having to select EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM in a notebook you may be working on?

A bit further up-thread Peter gave lots of great information about the new feature and how it works (all worth reading), and, more pertinent to your question, what it might bring:

On 2/15/2017 at 8:41 PM, kvitekp said:

Moreover, on-demand sync feature enables us to implement long requested features going under names like "Selective sync", "Auto Archiving", "Offline Notebooks Sync", etc. 

[jefito 5,586]

5 hours ago, eafpres said:

My expectation was that the remainder of the list which I am viewing would be synced by the time I click on them.

 

From Chantal's original topic post: "On demand sync: an option if you want note content to be downloaded only when you see the note in the note list." That might lead one to believe that your expectation was the right one. But I think it's more complicated than that:

On 2/15/2017 at 8:41 PM, kvitekp said:

For example, you just installed Evernote on a new computer and logged into your existing 10K notes / 10GB account. Before you'd have to wait a few hours for all your notes to get downloaded, however, with on-demand sync enabled, all your notes meta info will be downloaded in a few minutes and first dozen or so notes will appear in the note list view which will detect that these notes are not fully synced and request their content/resources from the server. These requests are served on multiple threads each having a dedicated connection to the service, so a few large notes won't block smaller notes from downloading. If you click on a partially synced note to get it into the note view, it will be downloaded with the priority higher than the notes requested from the note list.

Now let's say you started scrolling the note list down, so each note that appears in the note list view is added to the note content downloader request queue. This downloader is smart enough to confirm with the note list that the note it is about to download is still in the note list view and disregard requests for the notes you quickly scrolled away from. This way the client only downloads the notes you are actually looking at.

I boldfaced the parts that lead me to believe that just because a note appears in a note list that it will be fully downloaded. That wold imply that if you selected a notebook, then all of its notes would be downloaded, and I doubt that that's the intent. It's really to try to identify notes that you've been looking at (i.e., notes you select individually get higher priority) and download those fully. But hopefully Peter will chime in and set us all straight on that.

This question does make me wonder whether operations like "Download selection", "Download notebook", "Download note list" would be useful. I think they would, but it seems that Evernote is trying to make this facility pretty transparent with less UI involvement. Not for me to say either way, though.

 

 

[EdH 1,670]

I may delete my local data and turn this on. Without 18,000 notes in 8+gb to maintain maybe it will stop locking up on me multiple times a day. 

[ej8899 174]

Anyone seeing any sync issues in this latest update?

I updated a note on laptop A last night.  Laptop B still shows the old version this morning.  Web shows version as updated on laptop A. I've forced sync on each laptop again numerous times and same issue.

Updated the same note on Laptop B with a new line of text.  Web gets Laptop B version, but Laptop A isn't updating with the change now. Laptop C is still showing the original note (what laptop B did this morning). 

Android/Mobile version shows me the new Laptop B version (like Web version too), as does Laptop D (non beta).

Laptop A, B and C are all on the new beta version. 

Did some additional testing - created note on Laptop B - Laptop A gets the note. Add a line of text (on Laptop A)and sync again, Web & mobile gets the update, but Laptop B isn't getting the update.  Update an existing note on Laptop B, web and mobile get the update, Laptop A isn't updating.  Laptop D (non beta) updates as expected (in sync with web and mobile versions).

Update a note via web and sync laptop A and B - they both show the note as updated "1 minute ago", but the note content is still conflicted between the two laptops - neither is in sync with the web version now.  A new Web note is properly synced to both laptop A and B.

 

Anyone seeing similar or can reproduce and consider this a significant bug?

I do have on demand sync turned on - but haven't purged the database to put it to use.

 

update: turned OFF on demand sync and restarted Evernote, let things sync again (5 minute sync) and all is working back to normal again.

[lisec 282]

On 2017-02-15 at 5:31 PM, Chantal Leonard said:

@lisec do you have on-demand sync on? I can also PM you to get more details so we can troubleshoot - let me know! 

Chantal, I did (must have gone on by default when I installed the beta).

I recreated my 'full text search' yesterday and since then the issue of the list not refreshing immediately is fixed.

Searching for a phrase is still broken though (with on-demand sync enabled or not)

[mygwdisk 2]

Hi! I use 6.5.3.4452(304452) and...
When I type Win + Shift + F(shortcut key for "Find in Evernote", probably default),
in the past(I am not sure when it was or which version it was), it automatically made search-target notebook into "All Notebooks"
But now it does not.

Is it a bug?

Thanks

[kvitekp 294]

2 minutes ago, mygwdisk said:

When I type Win + Shift + F(shortcut key for "Find in Evernote", probably default),
in the past(I am not sure when it was or which version it was), it automatically made search-target notebook into "All Notebooks"
But now it does not.

 

Try checking the Tools/Options/Search <Search Options> [X] "Clear context on search"

[eafpres 111]

2 hours ago, jefito said:

That wold imply that if you selected a notebook, then all of its notes would be downloaded, and I doubt that that's the intent. It's really to try to identify notes that you've been looking at (i.e., notes you select individually get higher priority) and download those fully. But hopefully Peter will chime in and set us all straight on that.

Just to clarify, in my case I'm looking at a list of notes, none are scrolled away, and I work thorugh them clicking them in sequence.  So it seems to me that the stated design would have loaded the other notes by the time I clicked on them.  This statement "client only downloads the notes you are actually looking at" to me was meaning "notes you are seeing in your note list", not "notes you have clicked on".  But I could, of course, be wrong.

[EdH 1,670]

BUG:

Editing a hyperlink replaces the text.

I had a link to another note in Evernote but used the hyperlink feature (vs pasting the link and letting Evernote put the green link in). I later merged some notes and wanted that to be behind the hyperlink. Right-Clicked the text with the hyperlink, clicked EDIT, pasted the new link in. The hyperlink and text were changed. Only the hyperlink should have changed.

Only workaround I can find is to remove the hyperlink first, then add a hyperlink.

[jefito 5,586]

19 minutes ago, lisec said:

Chantal, I did (must have gone one by default when I installed the beta).

Curious; it was off for me. I wonder whether they're A/B testing this as well.

[dlu 628]

Demand sync is amazing. Round of beers on me?

[Addis Geordie 2]

15 hours ago, kvitekp said:

Please open Tools/Options and select Navigation section in the left column, then uncheck "[X] Match tags by prefix" in the "Tags related options" section.

That's brilliant - worked a treat.  Thank you very much

[kvitekp 294]

12 minutes ago, eafpres said:

Just to clarify, in my case I'm looking at a list of notes, none are scrolled away, and I work thorugh them clicking them in sequence.  So it seems to me that the stated design would have loaded the other notes by the time I clicked on them.  This statement "client only downloads the notes you are actually looking at" to me was meaning "notes you are seeing in your note list", not "notes you have clicked on".  But I could, of course, be wrong.

 

The above assumption is correct for Snippet, Card and Thumbnail note lists, but not for Table View. So if you are using a Table View, the expected behavior is to download a note only when you click on it. The reason for this is that table views usually have much higher note density so downloading all those notes implicitly may not be a good idea.

[raroos 2]

4 hours ago, kvitekp said:

@raroos Wow, I have hard time trying to figure out what part of the UI those white rectangles in the note list belong to! Please let me know what kind of text you had to erase from both rectangle footers? Was it note title, tags, or some kind of prompt or status string?

You lost me...

I erased some text from the notes and the footer where a tag was (With a company name)

I can make a new screenshot for you tomorrow, and send it to you privately? Is that what you want to know? 

[gustavgi 304]

6 hours ago, kvitekp said:

Done. Thank you for suggesting!

Much appreciated, thank you!

[jefito 5,586]

1 hour ago, eafpres said:

As part of trying to improve this, I acquried a sotware called Diskeeper.  There is an option in that software to dynamically use RAM for caching beyond what would occur normally.  The idea behind Diskeeper is to more intelligently manage read/write behavior to improve system performance.  Unfortunately, when the caching was engaged, it took RAM utilization way up, and EN would hang.  With this latest version, I will try again and report back.

Ugh. Sounds like just another product that promises to make your computer go super fast by doing things that your operating system already does for you. If it's just going to chew up RAM, then that takes it away from the OS's supply for managing its virtual memory system. Unsurprising that it didn't help. Defraggers, "*****" cleaners? Bah, not on my systems.

[gazumped 10,328]

On demand sync should make a lot of users very happy!  Thanks!

[CalS 5,103]

1 hour ago, kvitekp said:

The above assumption is correct for Snippet, Card and Thumbnail note lists, but not for Table View. So if you are using a Table View, the expected behavior is to download a note only when you click on it. The reason for this is that table views usually have much higher note density so downloading all those notes implicitly may not be a good idea.

Thanks for the insight.  On my monitor I get 10 notes in snippet, 16 in a 4 wide card view, as many as 50 in a 7 wide thumbnail view. and 44 in side list view.  Each view has its uses.  Just FYI.

[eafpres 111]

1 hour ago, kvitekp said:

The above assumption is correct for Snippet, Card and Thumbnail note lists, but not for Table View. So if you are using a Table View, the expected behavior is to download a note only when you click on it. The reason for this is that table views usually have much higher note density so downloading all those notes implicitly may not be a good idea.

Ah, that  expains my observations. I have settled into list view with side note panel.  My main use model makes this a good choice as I can sort quickly by created or modified, as well as title.  I just tested rapidly clicking down a list then starting again at the top, and they are all loaded by the time I get back to them.  So at least I have a workaround!

Thanks again for the support and for the information!

[jefito 5,586]

19 hours ago, Austin G said:

I'm waiting for additional clarification on how it will affect a fully downloaded DB. There was no change in my exb file size after enabling it, so my assumption is that it will only affect newly downloaded DBs, but I'll wait to confirm that. 

Makes perfect sense; you already have all of your content downloaded, so no change. New content that's added (via web clipping, web client, shared account, etc.) will probably be subject to the on demand sync rule, if it's enabled.

[kvitekp 294]

13 minutes ago, raroos said:

I can make a new screenshot for you tomorrow, and send it to you privately? Is that what you want to know?

That would be great! Thank you.

[ianfm 49]

On 28/02/2017 at 7:25 AM, ianfm said:

Since this last update I am finding that when a sync is running I am not able to do anything until the Sync is finished, if I try to do anything then Evernote locks up with "not responding" sometimes for several minutes. Once the sync is finished everything is fine. I am not using on demand sync. I have almost 12,000 notes and am using Evernote Business.

22 hours ago, EdH said:

Me since 2012. 

Demand sync seems to have fixed for me. 

18 hours ago, kvitekp said:

There is actually something else you may want to try if your database grows again: registry setting HKCU/Software/Evernote/Evernote/LargeResourceThreshold specifies the size of resources in megabytes that will be stored outside of the main database. This setting is normally set to 0 unless Evernote is running on a 32-bit system with low memory, however, you can set it manually if you want to keep your main database file small.

On demand sync is not an option for me, I need my notes offline because I often have to work where there is no access to the internet. Have no idea what this registry setting is all about, are you saying that by adjusting this it will stop the lock ups?

I have done some more looking at this  "not responding" issue. When I updated to this latest version I also did some tidying up of tags and notebooks, I have added some styles to various tags and notebooks. Now whenever Evernote syncs the not responding state always comes when the activity log shows:

 [11680] 0% Updating 129 local item styles

I have tried several syncs and watched the activity log and every time consistently the lock up occurs at the same point that the activity log shows that message.

Should have to update the item styles every time it syncs when none of the styles have been changed since the last sync?

 

 

 

[mygwdisk 2]

On 2017/2/27 at 4:38 PM, Addis Geordie said:

That's brilliant - worked a treat.  Thank you very much

Thanks! It works fine now!

[EdH 1,670]

37 minutes ago, jefito said:

Sounds like just another product that promises to make your computer go super fast by doing things that your operating system already does for you

Diskeeper is actually a reputable product, or was. They have since been acquired by Condusiv, whom I've never heard of. DK was the original defragger for Windows NT and it was critical to have. I've seen servers not boot due to heavy defragmentation in the past.

Less and less important in the age of SSD's, and all MS Windows products have built in defraggers that are usually "good enough."

But yeah, the RAM thing sounds sketchy.

[DTLow 5,721]

4 hours ago, gazumped said:

On demand sync should make a lot of users very happy!

Demand sync certainly caught my interest; the description reads On demand sync: an option if you want note content to be downloaded only when you see the note in the note list.

Can someone add more detail to this

[gazumped 10,328]

Yeah - just getting my head around the idea that I have 30,000 notes already in my database.  Obviously the majority of those won't be frequent flyers.  What's the effect of my ticking the option now?  Will the disk size of my database go down,  or will only new notes be affected...?

[chirmer 567]

Whew, did I miss a lot. LOVE WHAT'S COMING! Selective notebook sync has been a fantasy of mine ever since I bootcamped Windows 10 onto my 256GB MacBook Pro. Cannot wait for this. Sadly I already spent 3 days downloading my EN database onto my Windows side, but I'm going to fix that as soon as I get home and free up some space. Woo!

Bug though, using Windows 7. Seems copy/paste keyboard shortcuts don't want to work on images. Using the right-click context menu is the only way to get them into notes. 

1. Have image in note (in my case, often screenshots)
2. Highlight and hit CTRL+C, or even right-click and select Copy
3. Create new note
4. Click into note so there's a blinky line
5. Hit CTRL+V. For me, it doesn't work.
6. Right click → Paste works every time.

Unf!

[eafpres 111]

1 hour ago, EdH said:

But yeah, the RAM thing soun

The RAM usage is only an issue if some apps become sensitive to available RAM.  I don't know why EN was behaving that way for me before, but it isn't now.  Diskeeper seems to be well behaved in that it dynamically uses RAM if it is otherwise available.  So far, my system including EN is happy with 81% RAM in use, which was crippling before.  

What I'm waiting to see is if, once Diskeeper catches up and is managing caching etc., do the minor "Not Responding" events go away or not.  That would be a very nice result, but I'll see and report back.

[JMichaelTX 4,108]

On 2/9/2017 at 11:30 PM, Chantal Leonard said:

On demand sync: an option if you want note content to be downloaded only when you see the note in the note list. This is ideal for users with many thousands of notes who want to save some disk space. You can enable this by checking the "Enable on demand sync" option under Tools>Options>Synchronization. If you do not check this option, Evernote will download all the notes content in advance. 

This is a great option.  However, many of us have been asking (for years) for a "Selective Sync" option^[1] for the EN desktop apps that work much like the EN mobile app "Offline Notebooks".

Use Case for Selective Sync / Offline Notebooks for EN Desktop Apps

• Allows the user to download all Notes in a NB (in one action) that can be accessed without an Internet connection.
• Needed for laptops with small hard drives, or with low available disk space
• Would be ideal for laptops used for travel, where you expect Internet access to be limited.
• Using the "On Demand Sync" is NOT practical to download all Notes in a NB, if the NB has hundreds or more Notes.

Since you have already developed a type of selective sync, I would hope that simply adding a UI option to download an entire NB would be relatively easy to implement at this point.

Thanks for considering this, and please make all of this apply to both EN Win and EN Mac.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Footnotes/References:

1. Threads Requesting Selective Sync

• Selective Notebook Sync, Asked by csbrown, April 25, 2011 , 165 replies
• Please support selectively sync notebooks!, Asked by Hongbo-Miao, December 13, 2015, 63 repies

 

[CalS 5,103]

2 hours ago, jefito said:

Curious; it was off for me. I wonder whether they're A/B testing this as well.

Off for me as well by default.  Still off.

[kvitekp 294]

1 hour ago, dlu said:

Demand sync is amazing. Round of beers on me?

Anytime

[CalS 5,103]

1 minute ago, kvitekp said:

Anytime

Maybe after instant sync comes back?  

[kitezh 16]

I'm not sure if this problem is with this version specifically, but I've noticed now if I search by a specific tag, the search is then populated by a number of other tags using the ANY operator. This makes search impossible for me. Is there a way to prevent this happening and enable me to control the search better? 

[jefito 5,586]

41 minutes ago, kitezh said:

I'm not sure if this problem is with this version specifically, but I've noticed now if I search by a specific tag, the search is then populated by a number of other tags using the ANY operator. This makes search impossible for me. Is there a way to prevent this happening and enable me to control the search better? 

You have Tools / Options / Navigation / Tags Related Options / Automatically select child tags checked. When that's enabled, any time you use a tag that has subtags, the search turns into an ANY search with those subtags and any others you may have specified. 

For me, I'd rather it be a search language option that you could use with individual searches rather than a global setting that affects all searches, but I'm guessing that that's not likely to happen any time soon.

[lisec 282]

8 minutes ago, csihilling said:

Off for me as well by default.  Still off.

Hmm. Maybe I did turn on the feature. It would be unlike me, but it is possible.

[kitezh 16]

1 minute ago, jefito said:

You have Tools / Options / Navigation / Tags Related Options / Automatically select child tags checked. When that's enabled, any time you use a tag that has subtags, the search turns into an ANY search with those subtags and any others you may have specified. 

For me, I'd rather it be a search language option that you could use with individual searches rather than a global setting that affects all searches, but I'm guessing that that's not likely to happen any time soon.

 

Phew! You saved me. I was going crazy. I thought it would be in the Search options. Thanks Jeff.

[CalS 5,103]

3 minutes ago, lisec said:

Hmm. Maybe I did turn on the feature. It would be unlike me, but it is possible.

Well, in theory if all your notes were already on your PC it shouldn't have made too much difference, unless you did a reload from the servers..  

[jefito 5,586]

Two bugs / issues noted:

There's a mismatch between the tool tray icon menu item "Clip screenshot" and the corresponding entry in the Evernote shortcut keys dialog, which says "Capture screen". 

Not sure if this is addressed, but Win 10 installations should avoid setting the Clip screenshot shortcut key wi Win+PrtScr, which appears to be overriden by Windows for its own screen capture functionality.

[eafpres 111]

On 3/12/2017 at 1:30 PM, eafpres said:

"...the Windows client has some issues for me where items are not found in search while they are found on all other platforms."

With the latest pre-release build the search problem appears fixed!  Thanks to the EN team!

[jefito 5,586]

2 minutes ago, kitezh said:

Phew! You saved me. I was going crazy. I thought it would be in the Search options. Thanks Jeff.

No problem. I barked my shins on that a few times before I figured it out. It was mystifying : select one, tag, two tags, no problem, then click on one tag and all of a sudden there's a zillion tags in the mix. Wha?

[CalS 5,103]

4 hours ago, eafpres said:

I have noted in the past that my lenovo suffers in part from a mediocre hard drive, which has some un-intelligent firmware that causes performance issues.

Ever consider an SSD?  I think you can get a 240 GB drive for $100 plus or minus (cost me $240 four years ago).  Though there is wide variability in ease of replacing by machine, I think most Lenovos are on the easier end (slides out from the side).  Cloning software works well also.  Just another option.

[lisec 282]

This tiny bug is still around:  When you have an item selected in list view and then you grab the tiny square in the list's scrollbar and move it up to the top so that you can view the first items in the list, the scrollbar does not permit the action.

This only occurs when the list is populated as a result of selecting "All Notes" or "Notebooks" or the default Notebook in the tree. It works fine when any other notebook is selected.

 

2017-02-16_19-19-41_Evernote_Scroll_to_Top.mp4

[GiacomoLaw 134]

Is there an option to hide/unhide the shared notes block? Some people may want to hide it.

[Chantal Leonard 213]

On 2/14/2017 at 0:22 PM, lisec said:

Thanks csihilling - I got excited there for a minute... but alas, it was already checked. Does it work for you? Just trying to figure out if I should report it.

I suppose I'll go ahead and take the hour or so that it takes to re-create the various indexes...

@lisec do you have on-demand sync on? I can also PM you to get more details so we can troubleshoot - let me know! 

[Chantal Leonard 213]

On 2/11/2017 at 1:08 PM, JMichaelTX said:

This is a great option.  However, many of us have been asking (for years) for a "Selective Sync" option^[1] for the EN desktop apps that work much like the EN mobile app "Offline Notebooks".

Use Case for Selective Sync / Offline Notebooks for EN Desktop Apps

• Allows the user to download all Notes in a NB (in one action) that can be accessed without an Internet connection.
• Needed for laptops with small hard drives, or with low available disk space
• Would be ideal for laptops used for travel, where you expect Internet access to be limited.
• Using the "On Demand Sync" is NOT practical to download all Notes in a NB, if the NB has hundreds or more Notes.

Since you have already developed a type of selective sync, I would hope that simply adding a UI option to download an entire NB would be relatively easy to implement at this point.

Thanks for considering this, and please make all of this apply to both EN Win and EN Mac.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Footnotes/References:

1. Threads Requesting Selective Sync

• Selective Notebook Sync, Asked by csbrown, April 25, 2011 , 165 replies
• Please support selectively sync notebooks!, Asked by Hongbo-Miao, December 13, 2015, 63 repies

 

Hi @JMichaelTX - as you can probably intuit, this is a first step that helps us clear the way for these types of scenarios. Keep watching the Beta forums for more feature work in the future. 

[kvitekp 294]

11 minutes ago, csihilling said:

Maybe after instant sync comes back?

Instant sync will be back soon, however, if you want it now, please set registry variable HKCU/Software/Evernote/Evernote/InstantSyncDelayOverride to a nonzero value that specifies the number of seconds to wait before uploading a new or updated note. If you set it to 0xffffffff, there will be no delay and the changes will be uploaded immediately.

Note that setting InstantSyncDelayOverride to a nonzero value may affect your quota usage. If it is zero, the upload delay will be automatically managed for you by the service. This server feature is yet not enabled, waiting for other clients to catch up. When enabled, all clients will enjoy shortest possible upsync delay time calculated automatically given a bunch of dynamic parameters which include your current quota usage, server load and more. The "[X] Enable instant sync option" will go away.

[CalS 5,103]

4 minutes ago, kvitekp said:

Instant sync will be back soon, however, if you want it now, please set registry variable HKCU/Software/Evernote/Evernote/InstantSyncDelayOverride to a nonzero value that specifies the number of seconds to wait before uploading a new or updated note. If you set it to 0xffffffff, there will be no delay and the changes will be uploaded immediately.

Note that setting InstantSyncDelayOverride to a nonzero value may affect your quota usage. If it is zero, the upload delay will be automatically managed for you by the service. This server feature is yet not enabled, waiting for other clients to catch up. When enabled, all clients will enjoy shortest possible upsync delay time calculated automatically given a bunch of dynamic parameters which include your current quota usage, server load and more. The "[X] Enable instant sync option" will go away.

Thanks.  I gave it a spin.  I set the value to 5, then did a File - Exit in EN to save, restarted EN and the value is back to 0.  Doesn't seem to want to take.

Does the 0xffffffff make it the same as before, assuming it will take?  It is currently 0 and management by the service seems to mean next sync cycle.

Not the biggest thing in the world, I just got used to not worrying about syncing changes on my Windows machine.  Can hit sync if need be.  

[eafpres 111]

18 minutes ago, csihilling said:

Ever consider an SSD?  I think you can get a 240 GB drive for $100 plus or minus (cost me $240 four years ago).  Though there is wide variability in ease of replacing by machine, I think most Lenovos are on the easier end (slides out from the side).  Cloning software works well also.  Just another option.

The migration is what is holding me back.  It takes a long time to get everything just right on these Windows machines.  I have not personally tried to clone.  I'm worried about the registry in such a migration.  Have you done it successfully?  I've been considering taking my laptop to a professional to upgrade the drive, but that still make me nervous.  I have been considering this for at least a year.  I guess if I keep waiting it will be time for a new laptop soon.

[lisec 282]

Is this where we report bugs with this version? If so...

Searching for a phrase is broken. It works if you search in the title, but it doesn't work when you search in the entire database.  Specifically, searching for a phrase  gathers the relevant results (you can see the number of notes in the status bar, bottom left) and then a second later disregards the quotation marks and includes all results of the word search rather than the phrase search. 

Can someone confirm this?

Example:

I search for "film of the day" and initially the status bar shows 409 notes, then increases to 1,372 notes

I search for film of the day (without quotation marks) and initially the status bar shows 7,892 notes then switches to 2,480

I search for intitle:"Film of the Day" and that works correctly, displaying 401 notes

Many of my saved searches are broken because of this.

[kvitekp 294]

6 minutes ago, csihilling said:

 I set the value to 5, then did a File - Exit in EN to save, restarted EN and the value is back to 0.  Doesn't seem to want to take.

When tweaking Evernote registry, you always File/Exit first, then change the registry, then restart the application. Sorry for not mentioning this.