PunterMuniya 1 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Is there really no way to search for a specific image in evernote? Every where I looked point to solutions on searching "text within image" but what about the image itself? There is an option to rename images in the note. So it seems that could be put to use for search purposes. For example, if one uses icons for inline tagging within the note, the search should be able to list out notes with the specific image one is looking for. Can someone help? Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,586 Posted October 23, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 23, 2016 I don't think that there is one. First place to look ins in the Evernote search grammar doc (https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php). You can search for resources of a particular type using "resource:[MIME type string]", but not a resource's name, as far as I can tell. That would be a good addition, I think. If you want, and nobody else knows how to do it, I can move this to a Feedback Forum, which would turn it into a feature request that other users could vote up. Link to comment
Level 5 jbenson2 2,146 Posted October 23, 2016 Level 5 Share Posted October 23, 2016 13 hours ago, PunterMuniya said: Is there really no way to search for a specific image in evernote? 1 I avoid storing my photos in Evernote. There are better search engines designed for photos and images. Google Photo and Flickr are two that I use. Both of them can identify the contents in my photos with remarkable accuracy. In Evernote, if I capture a photo or image from a web clipping I will use a couple tags. 1.) "photo" and 2.) description of photo For example, an image of the colorful foliage would be tagged: 1.) "photo" and 2.) "foliage" Link to comment
Level 5* EdH 1,670 Posted October 23, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 23, 2016 This is a major oversight and has been an issue not just for images but all files. You cannot search for file name, which really seems silly. @jbenson2, there are lots of valid reasons to store images in Evernote. Maybe they want to. The files are online, private, and readily accessible from your various EN clients. Not all images are photographs. I store a lot of screenshots in Evernote with documentation. That makes no sense in Flickr (and I wouldn't use Flickr if my life depended on it given they are owned by Yahoo and the 2 year old security breach they had and told NO ONE about it. If you put pics there, you get what you deserve in terms of privacy.) Some prefer a local copy of images but with more robust tagging than the OS file system can do. Evernote is great for this, as long as you don't rely on finding the image with the file name. @PunterMuniya, my workaround is to type the filename in the text of the note somewhere. If you rename the file, just remember to retype the text. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 10,331 Posted October 23, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 23, 2016 It's possible to search for all images, but not specific ones - unless you added it to a new note via an Import Folder or by dragging and dropping etc, in which case the name of the image (or any other) file would also be the title of the note, and searchable. As already said - when I'm saving images I always add keywords to the note anyway. My memory for filenames is not good... Link to comment
PunterMuniya 1 Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, jefito said: I don't think that there is one. First place to look ins in the Evernote search grammar doc (https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php). You can search for resources of a particular type using "resource:[MIME type string]", but not a resource's name, as far as I can tell. That would be a good addition, I think. If you want, and nobody else knows how to do it, I can move this to a Feedback Forum, which would turn it into a feature request that other users could vote up. @jefito Yes, that would be great. It would really help needs of users who use workarounds (autohotkey scripts) for inline tagging as well as for searching notes that have used the same image stored in them for later review. I am new here and so, if there is anything I need to do, please do let me know. Thank you for responding. 55 minutes ago, jbenson2 said: I avoid storing my photos in Evernote. There are better search engines designed for photos and images. Google Photo and Flickr are two that I use. Both of them can identify the contents in my photos with remarkable accuracy. In Evernote, if I capture a photo or image from a web clipping I will use a couple tags. 1.) "photo" and 2.) description of photo For example, an image of the colorful foliage would be tagged: 1.) "photo" and 2.) "foliage" 12 minutes ago, EdH said: This is a major oversight and has been an issue not just for images but all files. You cannot search for file name, which really seems silly. @jbenson2, there are lots of valid reasons to store images in Evernote. Maybe they want to. The files are online, private, and readily accessible from your various EN clients. Not all images are photographs. I store a lot of screenshots in Evernote with documentation. That makes no sense in Flickr (and I wouldn't use Flickr if my life depended on it given they are owned by Yahoo and the 2 year old security breach they had and told NO ONE about it. If you put pics there, you get what you deserve in terms of privacy.) Some prefer a local copy of images but with more robust tagging than the OS file system can do. Evernote is great for this, as long as you don't rely on finding the image with the file name. @PunterMuniya, my workaround is to type the filename in the text of the note somewhere. If you rename the file, just remember to retype the text. @jbenson2 I would say it depends on how the user wants to use the note taking app. As @EdH points out, not everybody is looking to save photographs in Evernote. I recently upgraded to Premium in order to switch from Onenote for all my research needs. Consider a case where a specific course requires extensive use of Maps. To be not able to search them by name (either in combination with tags or titles) is a major drag for a user like me. Also, I heavily depend on tagging for filing and visual cues for reviewing needs. Since, Evernote doesn't provide inline tagging I took some inspiration from other users who have used autohotkey scripts to insert boilerplate texts into notes to simulate inline tagging behaviour (with icons in my case). Not being able to search by image name increases the time I spend on annotating and reviewing my notes. @EdH That sounds like a good work around. Thank you. For notes with images as content themselves, I think this workaround would serve my purpose. But for my inline tagging needs, these will add more time to my review schedule. The idea there is to quickly annotate a bunch of notes by certain keys (like topic analysis keys - what, how, why, questions, answers, pros, cons, etc.) and then be able to access them through search easily for further research and refining needs. But, really thank you for the workaround. It solves one of my problems. Link to comment
PunterMuniya 1 Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, gazumped said: It's possible to search for all images, but not specific ones - unless you added it to a new note via an Import Folder or by dragging and dropping etc, in which case the name of the image (or any other) file would also be the title of the note, and searchable. As already said - when I'm saving images I always add keywords to the note anyway. My memory for filenames is not good... @gazumped I did find the search syntax for all images in evernote's support sections. But my usage is different. I don't want the title of the note to be changed to the file name. Consider a long note which includes more than a couple of images for instance. And yes, @EdH did provide a good workaround for such usage which solves my problem for now but if I am to use the same image in say more than one note and then at a later point search for only those selected (in conjunction with tags) notes, adding keywords every time to such notes and ensuring I don't goof up in doing so by mistyping/incorrect naming then becomes a real issue. Also, if by keywords you mean tags, I am using a nested tag structure and templates for my notes. This means adding new tags every time upsets my structure and I have to keep going back to the Tag View to organize the orphans again and again. My other usage for images is inline tagging which doesn't really need to show up as tags when I am annotating and reviewing something. They are just keys to be able to research and synthesis a finer form of article or summary note later. Link to comment
Level 5 jbenson2 2,146 Posted October 23, 2016 Level 5 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1.) The size of today's photos are huge. My Evernote database is already 12 GB. I shudder to think what it would be if I also included my photos. I want a central location for them. Flickr holds my old photos and Google Photo holds my recent photos. Google Photo is my preferred choice because it offers more photo editing abilities. 2.) Images, as well as photos, can easily be stored and searched in Google Photo. Any image taken by my cell phone or placed on my Desktop is automatically copied to Google Photo in seconds. 3.) Evernote was also hacked. To put things into perspective, the information in my Evernote account is vastly more important than any of my old photos in Flickr. 4.) The free online computing ability to identify massive amounts of photos by an image topic (food, tree, garden, lake, dog, cat, family member, etc) with no user input is relatively new. It just appeared on Google Photo and Flickr within the past couple years. And during that time, Evernote has been working on much more serious issues. For me, photo searching was a non-starter. Link to comment
Level 5* EdH 1,670 Posted October 23, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 23, 2016 So? My EN database is 8GB and growing. I can upload 2GB a month if I want. No one here said they were including their photo library, just specific photos, in a research project in this case. To me, it makes WAY more sense to keep photos related to the research project with the research notes. An app like Evernote is a great place to keep things like this together. For you it might make more sense to stick your photos related to a project in a separate service. Go for it. I prefer to keep my stuff together. Flickr/Google Photos cannot store text and other items (PDFs, office files, etc) in one place, but Evernote can. No one said otherwise. Evernote can do it too, except for the file name issue, which I've provided one workaround, and there are others. Evernote was hacked AND IMMEDIATELY DISCLOSED IT. People were able to change passwords immediately. To this day, Yahoo still has not fully disclosed what happened so you don't know if it was just your password or if your data got stolen. The company cannot be trusted. Store photos how you like @jbenson2 and share those ideas as they may benefit others. But don't start with a "How do I" question with "you don't" if the product does, in fact, support what the OP wanted. And Evernote does. In spades IMHO. Link to comment
Level 5 jbenson2 2,146 Posted October 23, 2016 Level 5 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Sorry if you EdH don't agree with my comments. But I'll continue to offer my perspective on Evernote issues. Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,103 Posted October 23, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 23, 2016 21 hours ago, PunterMuniya said: Is there really no way to search for a specific image in evernote? Every where I looked point to solutions on searching "text within image" but what about the image itself? There is an option to rename images in the note. So it seems that could be put to use for search purposes. For example, if one uses icons for inline tagging within the note, the search should be able to list out notes with the specific image one is looking for. Can someone help? If I understand the question, when you know the name of the picture in the note, Picture in Evernote.jpg for example, you should be able to do a "picture in evernote" search and find the note that contains the picture. Works that way for me anyway. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,586 Posted October 24, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, csihilling said: If I understand the question, when you know the name of the picture in the note, Picture in Evernote.jpg for example, you should be able to do a "picture in evernote" search and find the note that contains the picture. Works that way for me anyway. Hmmm, didn't see it documented, and not something I'd tried before. Oddly, it didn't seem to work for the first image I search for, but did for others. Nice one! Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,103 Posted October 24, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, jefito said: Hmmm, didn't see it documented, and not something I'd tried before. Oddly, it didn't seem to work for the first image I search for, but did for others. Nice one! Yeah, I found it by accident. Searching for something and a note appeared which didn't make sense. Took a look and it turned out an image title in the note fit the search. Oh sweet mysteries of life. Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,721 Posted October 28, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 28, 2016 On 2016-10-22 at 7:14 PM, PunterMuniya said: Is there really no way to search for a specific image in evernote? On 2016-10-23 at 9:12 AM, jbenson2 said: I avoid storing my photos in Evernote. There are better search engines designed for photos and images. It was interesting to find out you could search for attachment filenames. Not much use for me - most of my photo names are generic in the form of IMG.nnn.jpg I agree there are better tools to store photographs However, I can see storing specific collections in Evernote. - For example, a special event or trip; I'd be collecting notes, photos etc in Evernote My alternative is to use an external link to photos, for example I have Shared Albums on iCloud in my Apple Photos Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,103 Posted October 28, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, DTLow said: It was interesting to find out you could search for attachment filenames. Not much use for me - most of my photo names are generic in the form of IMG.nnn.jpg For sure, it does help with other attachment types though, spreadsheets in particular for me. Link to comment
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