Lutherian

A look back at the GOAT Evernote Features from the past. Project Management: You could sort notes buy due date and easily see incomplete tasks. (The trick was to have one note per task - this could be synchronised to Google Calendar) Color coding notebooks was a thing. You could use Evernote as a picture album, there was even a zoom button to scale the images as required.

Hmm, I've also noticed that the link to the legacy version of Evernote is missing - maybe the sun has already set. As far as alternatives, Obsidian comes so very close, and the user forum is full of people who actually considered product criticism as a development path, but image OCR is not there yet. Same for Joplin. OneNote is not truly offline (like the new version Evernote ... if your Database is big) The new Mac OS Spotlight also searches pdf, word, image text (ocr) and scanned PDFs .. all for "free" but it does not replicate across all devices and it is limited to Mac devices. But I am not longer concerned about my preferred application coming to an end. With the AI explosion of AI, OCR recognition is going to become a standard feature. Evernote's two best features (best web clipper - ever) and using a special xml code to recognise not only the text inside an image, but the location of the text inside that image are what keeps many users sticking around and paying. Nothing, and I mean nothing, searches data as deeply, thoroughly as Evernote. I've test all sorts of things over many years. They could've had it all and could still ... But the personal information management is going to explode in the next 24 months. Hold onto you nuts with the one hand and your data with the other hand ... these debates and complaints of users are going to seem trivial and funny. When your software automatically drafts a 5 year budget plan to help you pay off you mortgage (that you didn't ask for), when it fights endlessly, tirelessly via emails with the electricity company to get back the money they overcharged you, when it summarises your email notes with someone and describes the best approach based on their personality profile - well then this will seem like a distant memory. Legacy is gone it seems, but something better is over the horizon - trust me. (The question is, will come from Bending Spoons ... I'm curious)

<Joke> Yes, I am wrong. The other who have mentioned this are also wrong. The system is perfect. The system works. There is only this Evernote. These notes have all downloaded correctly. It is my mind that is at fault. I must be sent for re-education in room 101 It is always 1984. </Joke>

I think Chris (after extensive testing - you may recall) came the same conclusion as I have. He said as well as anyone could have... This raises an uncomfortable question, something that I don't like to dwell on, but if paying customers are promised offline access and they are not getting offline access in the true sense of the definition ...is that a legal breach of the agreement? I suspect that the definition of "offline" would be very loosely defined LOL.

Compliants about incomplete offline database are not uncommon I see ...

Total load is minimal. This is not the first install that has done this, which is why I kept Evernote Legacy.

Well as you can see ...my Evernote has managed to exchange about 45 kb of data over a few minutes .... so at that rate my Database should be fully downloaded just a few years after the singularity, and then it won't really matter.... I wonder how common this occurrence is?

May I ask if it is a windows laptop? You say it took about 4 days .... so I assume it was a fresh install of Evernote, not an existing Evernote that was upgraded? The new Evernote stores local files in a folder called "resource-cache" - the word "cache" worries me - it denotes something that is temporary. Currently the new Evernote seems to resemble the Google Docs approach where you can keep *some* of your docs offline via your chrome browser. Each time I browse the new Evernote ... the "resource-cache" directory gets a little larger, but never seems to be steadily downloading the whole database. I might get a Windows PC and do a comparison ... who know, maybe the Mac Version doesn't download the whole database, while the windows one does - It makes sense if you're using a MacBook Air with it's pitiful storage capacity.

I don't mind the size of the Database, I do mind the New Evernote not providing me with the complete offline database within 24 hours like the Legacy Version does..... but the information you kindly provided about the links issue - I'm going to do a deep dive and report back. Thank you - getting hardcore technical information like this is what makes the forums worthwhile.

I agree with you .. I suspect that Evernote may become more cloud centric and built around task management.. Features such as (Expanded Card View) which was very useful for photographers and artists simply will not return. Thanks for the information ... worth consideration.

Ah, yes - in that case, I think your database would certainly be fully downloaded as was already there. In this situation, both were installed as new installations. Evernote Legacy completed the database download in 24 hours. The New Evernote is currently at 7GB of the total 50GB ... I'm going to keep an eye on it and see if it reaches full capacity and measure how many weeks it will take. I'll keep the new Evernote open during this time. My definition of "failure" is (New Evernote full Database Download Time) > (Legacy Evernote full Database Download Time)

Yes, I am using internal links as an example. Interesting .... would you say that you've had the system installed for a very long time (months)? I have three working theories (1) it takes a very long time for the database to populate or (2) the database does not populate on Mac Systems in the same way as Windows ..it may even be by design, as MACs are not known for their large storage capacities. (3) For some unknown reason, the database does not fully download on some systems....working on it.

Thanks for confirming that links do not work the same across both systems ... that save me time checking if it was a problem with my installation. There seems to be a change in the link structures <a href="evernote:///view/blah-blah" rev="en_rl_none">The Note</a>. (New Evernote) <a href="evernote:///view/blah-blah/">The Note</a> (Legacy Evernote) I'm pretty sure that Legacy Features will not be migrated across to the new systems - just looking for the official development path, so that I can decide what to do in the future.

I have proof. 6GB database size on "new" event vs 50GB Database on "old" Evernote. Easy way to test, on the "new" Evernote ... disconnect from the internet, scroll to older notes, try to open. Repeat the "old" Evernote. Evidence is irrefutable. "New" Evernote has been installed for weeks. (If the time to complete full database download takes longer than a few weeks...it is de facto malfunctioning. // Users may decide for themselves, as it is not the point of the original message.

Create a link between any two notes in the Evernote versions 10.55.2-mac-ddl-public (4019)Editor: v167.2.20810 i.e. Note (A) create some text with a EITHER a local link (evernote:///) or an external link (https://) to Note (B) Exit Evernote, launch Evernote Legacy (on the same computer) , click in the link - Nothing happens, exit Evernote Legacy. Launch Evernote 10.55.2-mac-ddl-public (4019)Editor: v167.2.20810* - click link, hyperlink opens the target note correctly. Problem: Some users will prefer to keep the Legacy Version as it allows a complete local (offline copy) of all notes on the local hard drive. The official version of Evernote does not (despite popular misconception) store all notes offline - it only stores previously opened notes This is true even if a user selects the "[x] Keep a copy of my notes on this device at sign-out" option. At the same time, users may need the latest version which allows task actions with calendar integration. Unless the new version incorporates the features of Evernote Legacy edition, the two will over time become increasingly divergent, making the the dual system impractical. At this point, the users should be given a clear declaration (if) or (when) all functionality of the Legacy edition of Evernote will be integrated into the new Evernote, to prevent the widening gap between the two systems, which as Evernote conceded, was a temporary solution.