Evernote window does not have scroll bars

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I've copied and pasted from a web site. When I view the note the bottom of the note does not appear. It is there as I can see the very tops of the next line of letters. Usually when this happens in any other document or web page there is a scroll bar that allows me to move the cursor down to reveal the balance of the text.

 

Now I've noticed that there is a very, very light gray, almost a shadow of a bar, that will move the text up or down, but only to the top of the next line of letters.

 

When I go to View>Show Related notes and uncheck the option, the entire note reveals, However, for me, it is inconvenient to have to toggle between the ability to see related notes AND an entire note.

 

Is there a switch that will let me have my cake and eat it too?

[gazumped 11,664]

It looks like the full note didn't download,  or the original clip didn't include the whole page.  As this is a PNG file try opening the image (highlight the picture and use Open or Open WIth) to see whether you can see the whole thing that way.  If you can see all of it,  try reducing the size of the image and saving the slightly smaller result into the note.

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gazumped, I guess I was not clear. The entire note is there. The .png was attached to show what does NOT display or is not available in Evernote, i.e., scroll bars within the message window. It was not a sample of the actual note. The actual is strictly text, not an image.

 

I also pointed out that I could get the entire note to display if I go to File>Show Related Notes and UNCHECK that option.

 

My point was,to me, this is a flaw within Evernote. I should be able to view the entire note AND see any related note titles without having to go to the menu bar and uncheck an option. For me, the better design would be to either have scroll bars within the note window or at least have a toggle switch at the bottom of the note window allowing me to turn off the Related Notes. That toggle switch should be fairly large and should be able to bring back related notes easily. I say a large toggle to make it easier to hit the target with the cursor.

[gazumped 11,664]

My bad - on a quick look I took the screenshot format to be the note.  I still don't follow the lack of scroll bars,  though I guess it might depend what view you're in - I have List view set up above note content,  and it shows me the full length of a note plus (when I turn it back on) the 'related note' panel,  which scrolls way down below the note content when I look further up the page.

 

It may be the beta I'm running too - but I do know the team are looking at  improving the note editor*,  so maybe this will be part of the enhanced package.  

 

The fact that the display doesn't work the way you'd like it to isn't strictly a 'flaw' - I use Evernote differently - related notes off and windows as above - and I've never noticed any framing or scrolling issues.  It may be a 'nice to have' for some users,  but shear speed and lack of 'freezing' come a lot higher on my wish list...

 

 

* It must be true,  a dev posted it...

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If you go back to the .png I provided, you will see where I would like to have a scroll bar. If it were there, I could read down as far as the window would allow, then I could scroll down the rest of a lengthy note while still keeping Related Notes visible.

That way after I've read the note in it's entirety, I could determine if I really wanted a different, yet related, note.

 

And I also have list view as default. However, even if I used Card or Snippet, once either are selected, the note window opens, but the entire note is not revealed until I turn off Related Notes.

 

Now your way of using Evernote, Related Notes off, does not work for me. I am at an advanced age where my memory is pretty much a fantasy long past. I NEED Related Notes to act as a spur to source the right note. I have never experienced any delay or freeze with Evernote set with Related Notes visible.

 

If software does not conform to the users needs, it is, in my opinion a flaw. Certainly something as intuitive as most people have come to understand i.e., almost every other software program acts this way with scroll bar functionality. In fact, even this Reply To window works this way. I can scroll from the top to the bottom of this note never losing sight of the POST and More Reply Options buttons. That is all I want Evernote to be able to do, substitute Related Notes for Post & More Reply Options. What I am proposing is not outlandish. Evernote needs to actually incorporate this, not just provide a possible truth because "a dev posted it".

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If software does not conform to the users needs, it is, in my opinion a flaw. Certainly something as intuitive as most people have come to understand i.e., almost every other software program acts this way with scroll bar functionality. In fact, even this Reply To window works this way. I can scroll from the top to the bottom of this note never losing sight of the POST and More Reply Options buttons. That is all I want Evernote to be able to do, substitute Related Notes for Post & More Reply Options. What I am proposing is not outlandish. Evernote needs to actually incorporate this, not just provide a possible truth because "a dev posted it".

 

Just on your last paragraph - I wasn't suggesting your proposal was in any way outlandish or unreasonable,  just trying to highlight that it may not be the same (or any) priority for every user.  It's irrelevant to talk about the Post and More Options buttons - the forum software is a third party commercial product not under Evernote's direct control.  Changing Evernote's layout means creating new code from scratch.  The development team will already have a schedule of work to last them for the foreseeable future - scheduling this task in means bumping some other (possibly more urgent) change down the list.

 

And for the last comment - this is a user forum so you're not talking to Evernote directly,  though devs do read these posts.  Since I've been here for a while I was making a (very) small joke about the devs who are known not to post any details of the work they're actually doing,  or when it might be released.  In this one case someone broke ranks to say they are working on the Editor.  That's not a "possible truth" that is accurately (and fairly unusually) what one of the developers posted.  He's more than aware that it would be Evernoted and diaried so we can rag him later if it's not evidenced by releases in the next few months.

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Sorry I am not being clear. I did not read anything you wrote that I could possibly infer you thought what I wanted was outlandish. What was and is outlandish, is the fact that no matter how anyone uses Evernote, people have grown accustomed to having scroll bars in most software packages. In fact, an example of that functionality can be found in a third party commercial product used for this forum. For Evernote not to do what most other software does is very odd. That is why I wrote in the first place. I was looking for a way to read my note AND see Related Notes. Honestly I felt there was an option that I needed to check to allow that behavior. According to you, this is just the way Evernote works. So my choices are, keep Related Notes and get a truncated note, or get a complete note and lose Related Notes. That is sad.

 

Now I know that Evernote staff reads these forums. If they did not, they would be idiots. Where else can a company get feedback on their product at no appreciable cost? So, I know they read the forums. Now, will they act on it? That is a whole different story and I have no wish to comment on that.

 

Now I understand you chose not to show Related Notes. That is fine for you. But I wonder if you would be fine if this forum software required you to go up to the top and select an option to show the Post button before your message could be delivered? That is the point I am trying to make. Evernote demands if I wish to read my entire note, I must switch off Related Notes. Unlike you, I need to see related notes. 

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Sorry I am not being clear. I did not read anything you wrote that I could possibly infer you thought what I wanted was outlandish. What was and is outlandish, is the fact that no matter how anyone uses Evernote, people have grown accustomed to having scroll bars in most software packages. In fact, an example of that functionality can be found in a third party commercial product used for this forum. For Evernote not to do what most other software does is very odd. That is why I wrote in the first place. I was looking for a way to read my note AND see Related Notes. Honestly I felt there was an option that I needed to check to allow that behavior. According to you, this is just the way Evernote works. So my choices are, keep Related Notes and get a truncated note, or get a complete note and lose Related Notes. That is sad.

This is not how Evernote works, in general. Evernote *does* have scroll bars in its note view, right in the place where you would expect them, something that you could easily discover for yourself. From your initial post, I'm guessing that there's some formatting in the clipped note that's fooling Evernote as to the screen size of the rendered note. The questions I'd ask you: does this problem occur with other notes? Is the problem mitigated by resizing the note window?

 

Now I know that Evernote staff reads these forums. If they did not, they would be idiots. Where else can a company get feedback on their product at no appreciable cost? So, I know they read the forums. Now, will they act on it? That is a whole different story and I have no wish to comment on that.

In your case, it sounds like a rare occurrence. It may be difficult for them to replicate. A specific case might be helpful to them, in which case, the best way to get it solved is to open a support request, and make the note available to them, if it doesn't contain anything private.

 

Now I understand you chose not to show Related Notes. That is fine for you. But I wonder if you would be fine if this forum software required you to go up to the top and select an option to show the Post button before your message could be delivered? That is the point I am trying to make. Evernote demands if I wish to read my entire note, I must switch off Related Notes. Unlike you, I need to see related notes.

The Related Notes avenu is a red herring. Evernote "demands" no such thing in general, bugs excepted. This is a bug, not a UI decision.

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I am posting this as a solution to the problem I was having with a truncated note and scroll bars that were not working.

 

When I copied the text from a web site, it pasted a gap at the top of the note. See attached .png

 

When I copied just the text, without the gap or the Title/Header of the note, and pasted that text into a new note,

I was able to see the entire note and the links to Related Notes.

 

So, if you had a similar problem, check to see if there are any gaps or blank spaces that cannot be removed. Those gaps or blank spaces 

may cause Evernote to hiccup.