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Search doesn't index filenames - why not??

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#1 qot

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发表于 19 January 2012 - 02:36 AM

I was searching for a cover letter I sent to a job recently, and searching for "cover letter" returned no results, even though the file is named "cover letter.doc". Luckily I remembered something else in the text of the note that I could search for.

Why in the world are file names not indexed??

#2 heather

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发表于 19 January 2012 - 03:11 AM

Search for specific filenames: filename:xyz* This will find filenames that start with "xyz".

So, try searching:

filename:cov*

That should pull up your note.

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#3 qot

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发表于 19 January 2012 - 03:55 AM

Good to know, but I didn't know I had an attachment named that. I only knew that I had a cover letter in Evernote somewhere. I could have just as easily had the text inline. It is terrible that it doesn't return notes with matching file names!!

#4 heather

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发表于 19 January 2012 - 04:12 AM

Then try filename:*
Or, if you are simply looking for notes that contain attachments, try resource:* (which will include image attachments, so you may have a huge list.) You can narrow it down with:

- Search for PDF: resource:application/pdf
- Search for Doc files: resource:application/msword (does not find .docx files)
- Search for Excel files: resource:application/vnd.ms-excel
- Search for XLSX files: resource:application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.spreadsheetml.sheet
- Search for Word files: resource:application/msword
- Search for Zip files: resource:application/x-zip-compressed
- Search for specific filenames: filename:xyz* This will find filenames that start with "xyz".

(My point here is, we do index filenames, and a whole bunch of other stuff. You just have to know how to search for it.)

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#5 qot

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发表于 19 January 2012 - 10:38 PM

Ok, well then my question is "Why doesn't a standard search return notes with a filename that matches?" You already index it, so why not return it? How am I supposed to remember out of my thousands of notes whether something was in the note text, inside the attachment text, or the name of the attachment? Evernote should just return everything.

#6 BurgersNFries

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发表于 19 January 2012 - 10:56 PM

Ok, well then my question is "Why doesn't a standard search return notes with a filename that matches?" You already index it, so why not return it? How am I supposed to remember out of my thousands of notes whether something was in the note text, inside the attachment text, or the name of the attachment? Evernote should just return everything.


Umm... really??? You want to go there? You've a doc called "cover letter.doc" I would have put that into an import folder. It would have been imported into EN & the title would be (drum roll, please) "cover letter.doc." This means I could have easily found it by searching:

intitle:"cover letter"

If I had a ton of cover letters, I could have sorted by creation date to find the latest one(s). If I feel the need to add any other text that I may search on, I add that to the note. It sounds to me like you are very lax on using accurate titles, tags, notebooks & keywords. If Evernote were to return "everything" (your word), you'd have to shuffle through many notes to try to find the one you were looking for. Your example is much like tossing your documents into a pile & then expecting to find the one thing you are looking for in five seconds.
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#7 anjoschu

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发表于 20 January 2012 - 01:02 PM

I also think that Evernote's simple search should work on file names as well.

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发表于 20 January 2012 - 01:11 PM

I don't think that this is such a bad idea. Currently, general search matches against note content, title and tags (the latter two can be searched specifically); adding filenames seems a reasonable expectation as well.
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#9 dlu

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发表于 20 January 2012 - 07:41 PM

Interesting idea. Thanks!
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发表于 29 January 2012 - 05:53 AM

Umm... really??? You want to go there?


What an odd and needlessly aggressive response!

The title of my note was the name of the company that I was applying for a job at. My document was clearly labelled "Cover letter", so my expectation is that my clear labelling would be returned in a search. No reason for me to duplicate the words in my note text as well, and it should not be required to do so.

But congratulations on responding in an unhelpful manner and criticising my tagging/keywording abilities. Two thumbs up!

Interesting idea. Thanks!


Excellent, I hope this makes it into a future build.

#11 GrumpyMonkey

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发表于 29 January 2012 - 06:21 AM

the more stuff that is included, the better. as a side note, apparently .doc and many other file types do not get indexed. so, in the future, i recommend saving files as pdfs in evernote.

#12 BurgersNFries

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发表于 29 January 2012 - 11:50 PM

The title of my note was the name of the company that I was applying for a job at. My document was clearly labelled "Cover letter", so my expectation is that my clear labelling would be returned in a search. No reason for me to duplicate the words in my note text as well, and it should not be required to do so.


If you read the search grammar, you'll find using keywords & accurate titles & tags allows you to find a single document quickly out of thousands. To be clear, I would have called the document "Acme Company - cover letter yyyymmdd". And this document would have been very easy to find, with no tags & even if it was in the same notebook with thousands of other notes, even if you had cover letters for fifty other companies, assuming you used the same naming convention. Organization doesn't just magically happen.
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#13 dlu

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发表于 30 January 2012 - 06:15 AM

Organization doesn't just magically happen.


In the future, we'll try to make as much magic happen as possible though.
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发表于 01 February 2012 - 08:03 PM

If you read the search grammar, you'll find […]


Yes, but will I remember in 4 years time whether a certain search term was part of the file name or part of the note? I think the standard search should just spit out all notes which contain the search term, no matter where.

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发表于 02 March 2012 - 04:13 AM

If you read the search grammar, you'll find using keywords & accurate titles & tags allows you to find a single document quickly out of thousands. To be clear, I would have called the document "Acme Company - cover letter yyyymmdd". And this document would have been very easy to find, with no tags & even if it was in the same notebook with thousands of other notes, even if you had cover letters for fifty other companies, assuming you used the same naming convention. Organization doesn't just magically happen.

Why do you waste your time putting the date in the title, when could find your cover letter using the existing search grammer, eg find that cover letter I wrote two years ago sometime in january or february "cover letter created:201001 -created:201203". It seems like alot of overhead per note.

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发表于 28 March 2012 - 08:09 PM

I'll just add that the main reason that I use Evernote is that (in most cases) I can through everything into a pile and expect to find it without being incredibly organized about it.. Of course I try to catagorize and tag as I go, however, I just as well use OneNote if I were to take (waste) the time to painstakingly catagorize, date, tag, and consistently name files as I create notes. Most of my notes are created on a mobile device.

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发表于 31 March 2012 - 03:59 AM

I am having a hard time searching with filename: For example, I have a pdf file called "Employee payroll". When I conduct the following search filename:Employee* I get nothing. Even if I do resource:application/pdf filename:Employee* I still get nothing. Am I missing something? This is usually not a big issue for me since I nearly always title my note with the file name and that's how I find them.

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发表于 31 March 2012 - 01:10 PM

I am having a hard time searching with filename: For example, I have a pdf file called "Employee payroll". When I conduct the following search filename:Employee* I get nothing. Even if I do resource:application/pdf filename:Employee* I still get nothing. Am I missing something? This is usually not a big issue for me since I nearly always title my note with the file name and that's how I find them.


i don't use the filename search very often, so i cannot say what its peculiarities are, but it does seem to work differently than expected. the only way i can ever get anything to come up is to do a wildcard search. on the mac it works for me. what client are you using?

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发表于 01 April 2012 - 10:51 PM

Search for specific filenames: filename:xyz* This will find filenames that start with "xyz".


As you know when you enter just text without any operator the Search engine will search the Note Title, Tags, as well as the Note Content. Since many, many users often attach files, have you considered adding the file name file to this search field list?

This would really add new capability in that the search would be for the Search expression to be found in EITHER the file name field OR Content OR Title OR Tag.

EDIT: I had not read the later posts when I responded to Heather's post.
Looks like a lot of us would like to include file name in the general search.

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发表于 03 April 2012 - 04:37 PM

I am having a hard time searching with filename: For example, I have a pdf file called "Employee payroll". When I conduct the following search filename:Employee* I get nothing. Even if I do resource:application/pdf filename:Employee* I still get nothing. Am I missing something? This is usually not a big issue for me since I nearly always title my note with the file name and that's how I find them.

The windows client filename: search is currently case sensitive. Are you sure you tested with capital E.
Try:
any: filename:employee* filename:Employee*

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