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[xdelplanque]

Dear beta testers,

A new update for Blackberry v3.4 beta 2 (revision 259) is available for you now.
What's new?

New features:
- improves syncing performance (3x faster).
- improves capture a snapshot UX.
- adds notebook filter from All Notes.
- adds delete, edit or send note from note list (long press).
- improves append text to see full note at the same time.
- improves home screen UI and legibility.
- global improvement of the app look and feel including larger fonts (still on going).

Bug fixes:
- fixes picture doesn't show in note view.

Known issues:
- the UI is still unrefined, a polished version is planned end of next week.
- the update for Storm is not available yet.
- append a text may duplicate the text appended.
- note upload issue when reconnecting.
- after taking a snapshot, the app may not go back to note editing mode.
Please let us know if you have any problem so we can fix them before the market release.
To download:

BlackBerry 5.0
Bold 9000, 9650,9700
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

BlackBerry 5.0
Curve 8520, 8530, 8350i, 8900, 9300,9330, 9330m, 8910, 8980
Tour 9630
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

BlackBerry 6.0
Curve 9300,9330
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

BlackBerry 6.0
Style 9670
Bold 9780, 9700, 9650
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

BlackBerry 6.0
Torch 9800
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

BlackBerry 6.0
Pearl 9100
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

BlackBerry 7.0
Bold 9900, 9930, 9981, 9790
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

BlackBerry 7.0
Torch 9810, 9850, 9860
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

BlackBerry 7.0
Curve 9350, 9360, 9370
http://update.evernote.com/prerelease/E ... ernote.jad

Thanks!

[metroside]

Thanks for the update. So far so good. Just installed it. Intial findings;

- Sync seems consideraly faster than previous versions. Both during the inital sync when opening the app and when opening a note for the first time, even notes in rich text.
- Really quick when using wireless connection.
- Freezing problem when trying to load a new note as soon as you open the app has been fixed.
- Ability to see percentages when syncing is nice and helps set expectations around how long it will take.
- Some cosmetic things. I'm using the 9800 version, the actual evernote icon is larger than all the others which makes it look a little untidy, the original login page the username and password font size doesn't fit in the text field properly.
- Liking the changes made to the 'append' option, where you can now see the rest of the note eventhough you can't edit it.
- No considerable difference when swapping between Thumbnail and List view. Was hoping list view would make better use of available real estate by displaying more note subjects. ( while I believe some people would prefer larger font, I'd prefer smaller Less scrolling )

If I think of more I'll update this post.

[Leeroy]

This build is much better. Some notes:

* When I close a note now, there is no stopwatch... it just closes, like it ought to.
* Opening notes is faster, still slow, but pretty usable on this old 9700/OS6 device.
* I like the new icons better on the home screen, but it is still a very subtle difference between a selected icon and an unselected icon. Maybe choose a different color rather than a different shade of green, or darker shadow to indicate this?
* Syncing is faster
* Reopening an existing note is faster.
* I like the addition of the Add tags button.
* HOWEVER, if I enter the add tags button, and try to move to the next button (notebook selection) I seem to get caught in the tags field, and can't escape without 'mousing' down, then back up.
* When I have a note open, there is adit button at the top of the screen, but not duplicated in the menu. I'd just as soon have it only on the menu.

All in all, this is a VAST improvement. Good job!

[jamesctaylor]

Thanks for a much-improved build. I have no feedback to add to what metroside and Leeroy have said above.

But, a couple of questions on offline note access:

• I presume that the asterisk displayed on a note in list/thumbnail view indicates that it is available to read offline?
• How can I make sure that a note I've viewed, so it is available offline, remains available, and does not get removed from the cache?
• How can I 'download' a batch of notes, or a whole notebook of notes, for offline use, without opening every note individually?

I ask these because I'm about to go overseas for a while, won't have data access, and so want to make some notes available offline for the duration of my travels.

[Ah_Fan]

Thanks for all of you providing the valuable feedback. Some of the issues are in our bug-fixing listing. We will take all your comments seriously and follow up.
@Jamie, the asterisk means that the note is stored in the cache and availiable for offline viewing. For now, we don't have a way to download a batch of notes (or notebook). I will add it as a feature request.

Thanks
Ah Fan

[jamesctaylor]

@James, the asterisk means that the note is stored in the cache and availiable for offline viewing. For now, we don't have a way to download a batch of notes (or notebook). I will add it as a feature request.

Many thanks. Do you know what - if anything - would result in a cached note from being removed from the cache? I just want to ensure that I have access to certain notes when travelling, and don't want them disappearing on me...

[Visor]

Ditto to what the others have posted. This is a BIG improvement! Thanks!

[jamesctaylor]

Further to my post above, I've noticed that notes do get removed from the cache fairly easily. In fact, as far as I can tell, notes were removed from the cache even though I wasn't using the Evernote app. So, I am unable to rely upon Evernote on my BlackBerry for access to notes when I'm travelling and without a data connection. I've had to save important notes in other formats locally on my phone.

An update that allows offline viewing with a 'pinning' option, so that notes never lose offline access, would be fantastic!

[Ah_Fan]

Hi, jamie,
can you tell me what it happen that notes get removed? Do you have some steps? Is it specific to certain kind of note? Or, do you "edit" the note? If you can send us feedback log next time when you see the issue, that would be great. I did check your issue last couple days but I am not seeing the issue.
Thanks
Ah Fan

[Visor]

After reading jamesctaylor's post I turned off all my connections to see what happened. Notes that I opened while online are still available but the ones I haven't opened are not. I get the following message:

"Looks like you are offline. Other notes you have recently opened on your phone may still be available offline."

Is this expected behavior? I assume it is since the message was obviously prepared for such an event. Did I miss this in an earlier update post? Seems to me syncing should be all notes not just the ones I open. I'd hate to have to open all my notes online to cache them.

[jamesctaylor]

can you tell me what it happen that notes get removed? Do you have some steps? Is it specific to certain kind of note? Or, do you "edit" the note? If you can send us feedback log next time when you see the issue, that would be great.

Thanks for your reply. I can't sent my feedback log right now as don't have data access on my BlackBerry - am currently travelling overseas. A few points I've noticed though:
- Before I left the UK I opened a whole batch of notes (in fact all the notes in one notebook) in order to cache them to give me offline access
- Now I'm without a data connection I've discovered the following problems in accessing them:
1. Using 'search' I can locate the notebook I cached. However the app won't let me open the notebook from the search results giving me the error message "please check your network and try again" - this is frustrating! I then tried to locate the cached notes by searching for them individually. However this gives me the same error message - even though I know that these notes are cached - or at the very least, if the app has lost the cached notes, it should be able to search the synced headers. But it seems not.
2. So, the only way to locate my cached notes is to scroll though my entire notes list! In doing this, and trying to open these notes, I've discovered:
a) Some notes that I cached and that are marked with "(*)" to indicate that they are cached, will not actually open. When I try to do so, I get the error message "Looks like you are offline..." Frustrating!
Some notes that I cached do open
c) I can't see any logic as to which of these 'cached' notes open and which won't. i.e. some with attachments will open and some won't; some that are just plain text will open and some won't.

So, all in all the experience is highly inconsistent and thus frustrating. Hope that this helps in getting to the bottom of the issues... Thanks!

[Ah_Fan]

@Visor,
yes. for now, you have to open the note in order to cache the whole note.
@Jamie,
Sorry to hear your problem, I wonder if you can send me some of the notes which do not "cached". One possible is that the note is not fully downloaded when opening, but we still need to check. Another is that EN doesn't support offline search, and so it won't return the notes from the notebook list. We will have a new version to open notes from selected notebook very soon. So, it will solve the search issue.
Thanks
Ah Fan

[xdelplanque]

Hi all,

Thanks a lot for the feedback.
Here is what I want to do for a few reported issues:


- No considerable difference when swapping between Thumbnail and List view. Was hoping list view would make better use of available real estate by displaying more note subjects. ( while I believe some people would prefer larger font, I'd prefer smaller Less scrolling )

we will display list view items on 2 lines only.

* I like the new icons better on the home screen, but it is still a very subtle difference between a selected icon and an unselected icon. Maybe choose a different color rather than a different shade of green, or darker shadow to indicate this?

we will darken the background to increase the contrast.

* HOWEVER, if I enter the add tags button, and try to move to the next button (notebook selection) I seem to get caught in the tags field, and can't escape without 'mousing' down, then back up.

I don't like it too. I would like to fix it asap and make the textfield content not selectable when mousing.

• I presume that the asterisk displayed on a note in list/thumbnail view indicates that it is available to read offline?

true, the note is cached on the device

• How can I make sure that a note I've viewed, so it is available offline, remains available, and does not get removed from the cache?

the cache shouldn't be removed unless a more recent version of the note is available somewhere else and the phone does a sync. Best way to keep those notes cached for the moment is to edit them only on your Blackberry

• How can I 'download' a batch of notes, or a whole notebook of notes, for offline use, without opening every note individually?

That's not available for the moment, but I would like to implement the offline notebooks in the future. It is a bit of a challenging feature, but I understand your need.

[xdelplanque]

James,

In complement to Ah_Fan answer:

1. Using 'search' I can locate the notebook I cached. However the app won't let me open the notebook from the search results giving me the error message "please check your network and try again" - this is frustrating! I then tried to locate the cached notes by searching for them individually. However this gives me the same error message - even though I know that these notes are cached - or at the very least, if the app has lost the cached notes, it should be able to search the synced headers. But it seems not.

This should be a part of another feature called "offline search" which is not implemented yet.
With the new version, you should be able to select the notebook you cached from all note list (new notebook selector).

2. So, the only way to locate my cached notes is to scroll though my entire notes list! In doing this, and trying to open these notes, I've discovered:
a) Some notes that I cached and that are marked with "(*)" to indicate that they are cached, will not actually open. When I try to do so, I get the error message "Looks like you are offline..." Frustrating!
Some notes that I cached do open

That's a bug, we'll investigate that. Thanks for reporting.

c) I can't see any logic as to which of these 'cached' notes open and which won't. i.e. some with attachments will open and some won't; some that are just plain text will open and some won't.

So, all in all the experience is highly inconsistent and thus frustrating. Hope that this helps in getting to the bottom of the issues... Thanks!

[srusmantijo]

I installed this beta version on my Blackberry Bold yesterday. After reboot, my BB would not boot. It requires a reset and upload of the new BB OS. Unfortunately, this VZW BB Bold does not have a reset button. VZW is sending me a warranty replacement. Maybe it's an isolated incident, but I'd like to report it to you guys.

[xdelplanque]

Thanks for reporting this issue.
I don't think this is related to the last update, but if anybody else experienced similar issue please let us know and we will investigate further.