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[suntereo]

I accidentally clicked on the Delete button on the toolbar, and my note just disappeared and was gone... just like that. It sure would make me a little more confident that I won't lose valuable work if there was a confirmation that asked, "Are you sure?" before deleting. Could you add this in? Or at least have an option under settings for this?

Thanks so much for reading this. Shawn--

[Metrodon]

It's in your Trash, you can get it from there.

When you go to empty your Trash there is a warning.

[OldGrantonian]

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It's in your Trash, you can get it from there.

The "Date Created" will remain at the date you created the note.

But the "Updated" date will be the date that you restore it from Trash. I'm not a techie, but I can't understand why the developer thinks that deleting a note, and then retrieving it from Trash, should be considered an update rather than a restore.
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[dlu]

Also, you can sort your trash in different ways. So if you delete an old note, it might be in your trash below some newer notes if you're sorting by created by

[TomDiego]

On my laptop, delete is adjacent to the arrow keys, and I'm constantly "accidentally" deleting notes. Since there's no visual indication that I've done so, more times than not, I don't even know that I should be heading to Trash to "undelete."

And the fact that emptying the trash (at some future point) does remind me to review what I'm doing, it often contains hundreds of deleted notes. I'm supposed to make time to stop and read every one each time, so the developers don't have to take the time to make confirmation an option?

That's a diabolical design oversight in a product that's supposed to help us safely preserve "everything."

I understand why some might not like it, and absolutely understand why some of us must have it (especially with some keyboard layouts). Make it an option, please!

[gavinch]

+1 for this feature.
I can't believe I have so much of my notes accidentally deleted!
And it is a waste of time searching through my deleted notes trying to find which ones are accidentally deleted.
And to make things worse I have to also consider the notes that I have merged together. The individual notes get deleted and restoring that would be creating a duplicate.
For now the only workaround I found was spg SCOTT's AutoHotKey script found here:http://discussion.ev...tion-for-notes/
Have yet to try it out

[BurgersNFries]

+1 for this feature.
I can't believe I have so much of my notes accidentally deleted!
And it is a waste of time searching through my deleted notes trying to find which ones are accidentally deleted.
And to make things worse I have to also consider the notes that I have merged together. The individual notes get deleted and restoring that would be creating a duplicate.
For now the only workaround I found was spg SCOTT's AutoHotKey script found here:http://discussion.ev...tion-for-notes/
Have yet to try it out

I suppose another option is to be more careful about what buttons you are clicking. Personally, if I kept clicking it that often, I would use the customize toolbar option (right click on the toolbar) to move the delete button to an area away from the buttons I'm most often clicking.

[GrumpyMonkey]

I customized my toolbar so that the trash appears far away from anything I regularly click. I think it would be pretty difficult for me to accidentally throw anything away, besides the fact that it is all quite easily recoverable. I would definitely not like to see a message asking if I really want to do something. These are the kinds of messages that drive me nuts!

[idoc]

Please do NOT change the way this currently works. I would rather lose the odd note every 6 months (and retrieve it from trash) rather than get prompted hundreds of times about if "I'm sure" I want to delete it.

[dlu]

On my laptop, delete is adjacent to the arrow keys, and I'm constantly "accidentally" deleting notes. Since there's no visual indication that I've done so, more times than not, I don't even know that I should be heading to Trash to "undelete."

And the fact that emptying the trash (at some future point) does remind me to review what I'm doing, it often contains hundreds of deleted notes. I'm supposed to make time to stop and read every one each time, so the developers don't have to take the time to make confirmation an option?

That's a diabolical design oversight in a product that's supposed to help us safely preserve "everything."

I understand why some might not like it, and absolutely understand why some of us must have it (especially with some keyboard layouts). Make it an option, please!

Is this a default configuration? I imagine this causes much of a headache everywhere...

[GrumpyMonkey]

On my laptop, delete is adjacent to the arrow keys, and I'm constantly "accidentally" deleting notes. Since there's no visual indication that I've done so, more times than not, I don't even know that I should be heading to Trash to "undelete."

And the fact that emptying the trash (at some future point) does remind me to review what I'm doing, it often contains hundreds of deleted notes. I'm supposed to make time to stop and read every one each time, so the developers don't have to take the time to make confirmation an option?

That's a diabolical design oversight in a product that's supposed to help us safely preserve "everything."

I understand why some might not like it, and absolutely understand why some of us must have it (especially with some keyboard layouts). Make it an option, please!

Is this a default configuration? I imagine this causes much of a headache everywhere...

Perceptive question. On the Mac (wisely) the default configuration doesn't even contain the trash. Perhaps the Windows team ought to consider removing it from the default view or moving it.

[spg SCOTT]

I think that dlu and Tom are referring to the placement of the delete key on the keyboard, rather than the placement of the delete buttons in EN.

The linked post of mine above was in reference to the delete key, rather than the button, and so the AHK script acts on that.

With regards to a deletion confirmation dialog, I guess this is something that EN could do, but also include a checkbox to not show it again. This is something that they have done before with other deletions, and managing the option is (from a user point of view) relatively easy being a registry key.

I think if it were implemented in the future, I would hope for an option to hide it, which I personally would use.

Interestingly, I have new note and delete right next to each other in the toolbar, and have never had an issue with deletion. Just me though...

[GrumpyMonkey]

I think that dlu and Tom are referring to the placement of the delete key on the keyboard, rather than the placement of the delete buttons in EN.

The linked post of mine above was in reference to the delete key, rather than the button, and so the AHK script acts on that.

With regards to a deletion confirmation dialog, I guess this is something that EN could do, but also include a checkbox to not show it again. This is something that they have done before with other deletions, and managing the option is (from a user point of view) relatively easy being a registry key.

I think if it were implemented in the future, I would hope for an option to hide it, which I personally would use.

Interestingly, I have new note and delete right next to each other in the toolbar, and have never had an issue with deletion. Just me though...

Oh. The delete key on the keyboard? Interesting. I guess I have never accidentally deleted anything in that fashion. I thought he was talking about the toolbar. The dialogue box with a checkbox would be OK with me, but I'd just check the box and hope to never see it again

[gavinch]

Please do NOT change the way this currently works. I would rather lose the odd note every 6 months (and retrieve it from trash) rather than get prompted hundreds of times about if "I'm sure" I want to delete it.

Yes it does make sense. But maybe an option would be good.
Or better when a note gets deleted let there be a pop-up to make the user aware that he has deleted the note. Or even better in the place of that note let it be greyed out with an undo button like sometimes which we see in Facebook.
As mentioned, some keyboards have the delete key very close to certain keys we use often. For my case its the home button which I frequent.

[tolga]

I also beleive that it might be better if a confirmation question (asking whether you are sure about deleting) is put optionally and Ieave it to the user whether to use it or not....

but I must also admit that the option for sorting according to the deleted date in the trash folder is very helpful... if you realize that you have deleted sth, that will help... but the problem is what if you do not realize a deleted note?

[GrumpyMonkey]

I also beleive that it might be better if a confirmation question (asking whether you are sure about deleting) is put optionally and Ieave it to the user whether to use it or not....

but I must also admit that the option for sorting according to the deleted date in the trash folder is very helpful... if you realize that you have deleted sth, that will help... but the problem is what if you do not realize a deleted note?

Actually, this is a problem, isn't it. I have deleted things on accident and wondered how they got there. I know this might be way beyond the pale, but I think it would be cool if we could have a note generated each day (optional, of course) detailing our activity. I'd like to know all sorts of diagnostic stuff and have it in an easily digestible form.

Report for August 13, 2012

12 notes changed
20 notes created
3 notes deleted
2 notebooks shared
1 shared notebook deleted

Changed notes
blah blah details

Created notes
blah blah blah details

Deleted notes
blah blah blah details

[tolga]

I also beleive that it might be better if a confirmation question (asking whether you are sure about deleting) is put optionally and Ieave it to the user whether to use it or not....

but I must also admit that the option for sorting according to the deleted date in the trash folder is very helpful... if you realize that you have deleted sth, that will help... but the problem is what if you do not realize a deleted note?

Actually, this is a problem, isn't it. I have deleted things on accident and wondered how they got there. I know this might be way beyond the pale, but I think it would be cool if we could have a note generated each day (optional, of course) detailing our activity. I'd like to know all sorts of diagnostic stuff and have it in an easily digestible form.

Report for August 13, 2012

12 notes changed
20 notes created
3 notes deleted
2 notebooks shared
1 shared notebook deleted

Changed notes
blah blah details

Created notes
blah blah blah details

Deleted notes
blah blah blah details

viewing the trash folder by sorting the notes according to deleted days might perhaps work to keep track of the deleted files... but still an option for certain folders not to let notes to be deleted so easily is a must... I have carried all the database of a petition system to evernote and tagged them accordingly. If a note is deleted accidentially, this means that this petition will never be answered, which is a huge problem... I am still glad that I have changed my system to evernote, before that I did not have any system, using google forms to collect petitions, but would be very happy to have an option to restrict deletion of notes in certain folders.